AFK kiss of death solution

quiffsplitter··3 votes·1,681 views

Let someone else pick up where your AFK left off.

Just that. If someone AFKs for more than a set period of time (say three minutes) then let someone ELSE load their game and continue with their champ. In game mode select, we'd need the option to "AFK Fill".

This would help AFKs be less of the kiss of death that they are now.

The player subbing in for the leaver could be of slightly higher ELO to compensate for his champ being dead in the water for 3 minutes, or get some kind of in game gold bonus.

The sub would still be screwed 9 times out of 10, since his predecessor was probably a toxic feeder, and his team will still lose, so he could get an IP bonus or loot.

The AFK player would still get his punishment

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notice me Sin pi2 votes

so who would want to sub in for the AFK?

quiffsplitter2 votes

Anyone, if rito made it worthwhile somehow. It could be a great low-pressure experience since no one would expect you to do well at that point.

ForFoxSakes1 votes

AKA you'd likely get a total troll to throw harder since they have nothing to lose as everyone was already expecting to lose?

quiffsplitter1 votes

You can get banned for being a total troll already. There's no reason to assume that subs would be trolls.

ForFoxSakes2 votes

So now not only are you potentially shoved into a role blindly that you might have no idea how to play, but also champ is preselected for you that you could be using for the first time. #greatsolution

Tormentula1 votes

O god no

Never

I never want to be forced to fill in a 20 minute game with the enemy team at our nexus

Even if i got lp for losing it it'd never be worth the toxicity I walk into.

I'd afk myself if i got afk filled...

quiffsplitter1 votes

No, the whole point is that it would be optional. You'd sign up for AFK Fill and get some kind of perk in return.

Tormentula1 votes

Originally you signed up for role fill

Now its auto fill.

I do not want to experience the slippery slope of this idea.

quiffsplitter1 votes

Sorry, it sounds like you are just arguing against a concept I'm not suggesting. Any thoughts on the one I DID suggest?

Tormentula2 votes

We could sign up for role fill We could sign up for afk fill

2 months later

We are now forced into auto role fill We are now forced into auto afk fill

Understand?

quiffsplitter1 votes

I understand that you are a dense git that can't discuss a concept as it is presented. If anyone advocates the things you are afraid of, by all means freak out about it, but that's not the topic of this thread.

Tormentula1 votes

If you wanna get arrogant when somebody explains why the idea is bad, then don't share the idea if you're afraid of the feedback.

This isn't tf2 or overwatch where the skill of the players simply turns a game on return. This is league where open mid is pretty much what a losing game is when your behind. Granted there are comebacks, but that's not if only 2 people try like in OW or tf2, that's if the whole team tries which with an afk, is unlikely. There is no reason to "afk fill" cause in that time it takes for somebody to load in, the game is already in a horrible snowballing out of control position, making the comeback a struggle.

After all, why would I want to sign up for afk fill, and then have to fill in for a 0/5 kha'zix who ragequit and spent his gold on tears. It would not benefit me or my team in the slightest besides having somebody else to surrender vote, and it certainly wouldn't benefit the filler who has to walk into potentially bot lane fighting, mid complaining about ganks all game, and top proxying while 0/9, while being told to stay in base so the enemy can end.

If the system was implemented, it would be a failure cause nobody would ever do this. If the system succeeded, it would be more generalized to the game, and we'd potentially see dumb decisions by riot with it such as auto afk fill, just like how new role select was amazing with role selection, then became a curse.

This is not me being a dense git, this is me knowing through history how the idea will go down, than analyzing the theory on what situations the new mechanic will bring.

quiffsplitter1 votes

You asked why someone would do this. As I said in the first post, riot could incentivise this with perks of all sorts. It will be worth it to some, not to others.

You keep coming back to this being required, which really is painfully dense of you. I'm going to stop spelling that out for you because I simply don't know how to make it clearer.

YokoNomi1 votes

The only way this'd be salvagable if it had the same premise as the early surrender mechanic if someone fails to load in within 3 min, no longer. But even then, to get a grasp in a game that's designed to snowball, would be very difficult to do as someone just hopping in. Especially since you'd have to start off with nothing, and at best accumulated gold that would be surmounted by the duration of the game that has since past up unto the point of you joining. But I'm also against the idea, either way.

Quepha1 votes

i don't think many people would opt-in to backfilling. i don't think players would like being forced to backfill. i think continuing to harshly punish and discourage leavers is the better solution.

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