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Ryze is fucking BUSTED

Standgrounding··52 votes·6,183 views

overloaded kit. Spam all spells. Tons of damage. And of course, a team teleport.

PSA: I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MID WHERE ANY MAGE SHITS ON HIM. IT IS ABOUT TOP LANE!!!!!!!!

Yes, I'm a salty tank/fighter player. Tried that shit mage myself. Jesus, that power.

Don't know combos? No problem, you will be god anyway. Play it like Mortal kombat as a kid does - mash all buttons.

But the worst thing is mashing head into E and Q, sometimes W to hold an enemy and getting free 23 Lp(or more). MASH ALL DAMN BUTTONS. PENTAKILL.

Spirit Visage? Nah my spells can crit and i will melt u Banshees? Joke. Got voidstaff. Go home. Edge of night? Another joke. I have million of spells there. Mercurys? Nah Mana problems? Got RoA and tear for that too.

Just nerf that OP trash champ just like you'll do with lethality.(IMO i kinda like lethality meta, Vayne Jinx has almost no right to exist there)

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deltemp95151228 votes

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Sagan Forever9 votes

Why so much salt for a 42% win rate champion. Ryze is on his way to joining Azir , so good in pro play that he is forced to be dirt overall.

Standgrounding3 votes

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Pathfinder Yasuo2 votes

[{quoted}](name=SMURF HENEKTON,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iicAxoOG,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-02-19T22:15:13.598+0000)

I wonder, why bullshit champions have the lowest winrates.

because 58% of players cannot win playing Ryze

l2p

Standgrounding1 votes

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Pathfinder Yasuo3 votes

minions and champions block his q

lmao

Sp33d Zer04 votes

Just a reminder, Ryze's e allows the Q to bounce in lane pretty easily. The range is short, so you just stand back away from your minion lane that is between you, but it is still possible for him to harass you.

Standgrounding1 votes

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Just a reminder, Ryze's e allows the Q to bounce in lane pretty easily. The range is short, so you just stand back away from your minion lane that is between you, but it is still possible for him to harass you.

And now I either lose a ton of HP or a ton of CS... fuck this shit.

Melledoneus3 votes

I think your problem is that Ryze is annoying, but not OP.

CppL3 votes

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I think your problem is that Ryze is annoying, but not OP.

When a champ goes back to lane with a tear+catalyst ,and chunks half your hp with a single E+Q combo ,thats not annoying.Thats op and broken.And dont forget that point and click hard cc,and shield ,sustain....etc.

Melledoneus3 votes

If half your HP consists of 400 HP not backed up by MR, then I'm not surprised.

Mecha MaIphite22 votes

overloaded kit

nice

EDIT: because his Q is called "overload"

gameplay boards smh

Azteryz10 votes

you guys need to look up if there is anything on the pbe before ranting

he has nerfs slated for the pbe riot agrees with you guys wait till those drop then form your opinion

Ryze

Spell Flux (E)'s extra damage bonus effect for Overload (Q) lowered from 40/55/70/85/100% to 40/50/60/70/80%

Standgrounding2 votes

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ShadowParker3 votes

That's a good hit.. Dunno why you're complaining.

GayFluffyUnicorn7 votes

Lol what a crybaby. He is already one of the lowest winrate champs and hardest to play champs in the game xD Now riot nerfs him even further but somehow quinn point and click oneshotting people is okay.

NineTailedMystic4 votes

It's because Ryze is one of those champion where if you can play him, he absolutely demolishes everything, just lie Azir and Kalista in their prime.

SH Azykan1 votes

honestly watching a kalista 1 trick in this meta is glorious... there is not enough cc to lock her down and she does a LOT of damage to a team with item 3085 item 3153 item 3814 item 3071 item 3139 item 3009 because everyone is squishy it only take a few spears on each to absolutely destroy them with rend

EasternBladeStar2 votes

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Ryze is "one of the hardest to play champs".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

NichtHurz2 votes

Dude, try playing Ryze yourself just for one time. Yeah, there will most likely be a point where you just EQ the enemy adc to death, but you'll get trashed anyways. If there's one thing that's tough about Ryze it's his positioning, trust me, it's not even cool to see how useless you become if you just move one millimeter into the wrong direction.

I totally agree that Ryze is busted and dumb in the hands of a Ryze main who's at least high plat/diamond, but below...I see Ryze players all the time, they get a few kills through sheer damage, but are completely useless throughout the game because there are way too many mistakes they can make.

Ryze is a problem and he belongs in the dumpster, but please don't tell me this champ's easy. He's not and most players are getting completely trashed playing him.

Sp33d Zer05 votes

I have been playing a bit of the new ryze because I loved both previous iterations, and I learned a few things.

1: The ult is really, really hard to use in a good, effective way. I would argue it is the most situational ult in the game (I can't think of anyone with a more situational one) and it requires a lot of teamwork to make a good use of, something that is very lacking in solo queue. I mean hell, we've all seen the videos of Ryze ults ending in an instant penta for the enemy team.

2: If you don't combo properly for damage, you won't likely have enough damage to get the kill before they can get away (it is good for harass though), and if you do combo for damage, you leave yourself very open to be punished as you don't have any bonus move speed, or the spell shield

Spirit visage, banshees (lul, who still buys this), edge of night, and maw of malmortius have actually done quite a lot against me, as unless it is a pure tank and you have time to work on them with visage, you can't do much to them, edge of night builders can burst you faster than you burst them if they engage with the shield up, and maw can absorb a crit q in the mid game.

3: He is so, SO easy to gank in lane if one person has a way to CC. You force ryze to have to W+E+Q to run, or E+W+Q, and then the second person can just cc him and he is all out of options.

He is still really, really strong in the hands of someone who can play him well, just like every high mechanics champion, but if you just button mash on him, you won't find much success.

Also LUL someone who reguarly ints is complaining about what is fair https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=SMURF+HENEKTON.

grug2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sp33d Zer0,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iicAxoOG,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-02-20T04:03:47.762+0000)

I have been playing a bit of the new ryze because I loved both previous iterations, and I learned a few things.

1: The ult is really, really hard to use in a good, effective way. I would argue it is the most situational ult in the game (I can't think of anyone with a more situational one) and it requires a lot of teamwork to make a good use of, something that is very lacking in solo queue. I mean hell, we've all seen the videos of Ryze ults ending in an instant penta for the enemy team.

2: If you don't combo properly for damage, you won't likely have enough damage to get the kill before they can get away (it is good for harass though), and if you do combo for damage, you leave yourself very open to be punished as you don't have any bonus move speed, or the spell shield

Spirit visage, banshees (lul, who still buys this), edge of night, and maw of malmortius have actually done quite a lot against me, as unless it is a pure tank and you have time to work on them with visage, you can't do much to them, edge of night builders can burst you faster than you burst them if they engage with the shield up, and maw can absorb a crit q in the mid game.

3: He is so, SO easy to gank in lane if one person has a way to CC. You force ryze to have to W+E+Q to run, or E+W+Q, and then the second person can just cc him and he is all out of options.

He is still really, really strong in the hands of someone who can play him well, just like every high mechanics champion, but if you just button mash on him, you won't find much success.

Also LUL someone who reguarly ints is complaining about what is fair https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=SMURF+HENEKTON.

lmao this is why i look up the stats of everyone complaining about balance these days, usually the players below gold 3 are just irrationally ragethreading about being owned this one time.

the match history is comedy gold

https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=SMURF%20HENEKTON

http://i.imgur.com/hJhLzuz.png

blatantly int fed 4 games in his past 20 ranked games with the summoner spells not changing each time which CLEARLY states his intent to feed even before the match starts, this is more than enough evidence to constitute a ban.

yeah ryze is OP if you have mechanics, positioning and map awareness as with every other champion with higher skill floors than garen. The main reason his winrate is probably low is because he's a 450 ip champ and clueless people are probably just playing him by default because of that and the LCS where he's doing WTFomgbbq plays.

qScPhXwvSs2 votes

Love these "feel good" morons who dig through posters match histories in hopes of finding something they could use to slander the poster almost completely ignoring the topic at hand. Pathetic.

Ryze is overpowered.

A late game monster who bullies in lane should never exist as a champion.

Sp33d Zer02 votes

Except that I addressed the concern. Someone who intentionally is losing his teammates the game is clearly someone who doesn't know how to come back in a game they are behind in.

The rank someone is doesn't matter when it comes to opinion of balance. But this is clearly someone is who prone to either trolling, or throwing tantrums. Do you really want that to be who is heard and representative of you?

Incarceration1 votes

Ryze is broken in the right hands, and is basically like Azir. He has massive DPS while having little weaknesses.

Standgrounding1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sp33d Zer0,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iicAxoOG,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-20T17:55:40.936+0000)

Except that I addressed the concern. Someone who intentionally is losing his teammates the game is clearly someone who doesn't know how to come back in a game they are behind in.

The rank someone is doesn't matter when it comes to opinion of balance. But this is clearly someone is who prone to either trolling, or throwing tantrums. Do you really want that to be who is heard and representative of you?

Okay, people that bash on my match history actually made me a good laugh.

Yes, I admit, I am toxic, I am an asshole. And I am NOT sorry for flamers who made me troll. But I say the truth.

It is clearly stated somewhere that EUW is harder to climb than NA. Plus, with constant trolling, I am Silver. Doesn't that ring any bells to you? Damn, dude, my name starts with "SMURF", yeah, I use this account to complain about stuff happenning in my main ranks.

Most people get that a champ that is both lane bully and late hypercarry should not exist, which is again reiterated in the main post.

Last game on my main account I had terrible CS. Played vs Yasuo that is my counter in top lane(wall my combo). Mashed ALL buttons. Yasuo "I can't believe this unskilled Ryze destroys my lane..."

Thief of Space3 votes

Ryze is just that champ you can try to shutdown early but he comes back because lul itemization + combo CDs and his nonstop shields. TBH He should just be called a tank because thats what he is after getting roa and seraphs. item 3027 item 3040 item 3165

I'm not the best mid player but he seems to become immune to bullying after roa and tear which is complete bs. the only champ I tried against him moderately well was Syndra . This game is literally a meme since the juggernaut update back in season 5.

sobi9993 votes

His W is straight up cancer. Targeted stun should not be allowed on any champ. Other than that if you can avoid his Q then you have negated more than 80% of his damage. You really need to learn how to lane against ryze to actually be able to lane against him without getting annihilated. He is definitely hard to play and master. Just that W though.

RlP K0BE2 votes

Finally someone has been pointing out his bull shit

vodrio122 votes

his "weak early game" is a lie

Kitty Clarissa2 votes

just wait till he gets reworked for the 100th time, he will be balanced then.

VelvetCrotch2 votes

marvellous statement, enjoyed every second. ;-)

Papa Andrei1 votes

I can make my meat last for years with all this salt.

Automated Riven1 votes

true story. so long as you can hit a rooted enemy ryze works in bronze even if you have never played him

Arsenic Sulfur1 votes

If this Ryze makes you salty you should've seen the Ryze meta in S3. EIther ban Ryze or pick him before they do. Otherwise you just lost because lul machine gun tank that can beat Renekton in lane.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

I played against a fairly good Ryze some day or two ago ( my memory is awful due to all nighters ) with Orianna.

I crapped on him and ruined him and his team the moment he or his team tried to engage nearly every time.

The ball too strong for mr spammalot

Standgrounding1 votes

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I played against a fairly good Ryze some day or two ago ( my memory is awful due to all nighters ) with Orianna.

I crapped on him and ruined him and his team the moment he or his team tried to engage nearly every time.

The ball too strong for mr spammalot

I'm talking toplane things, OK? In mid even after nerf Zyra shits on him, but in top lane(If I don't pick Tryn or Yasuo) he gets free scaling while being massive lane bully, OK?

Thefrostyviking1 votes

[{quoted}](name=SMURF HENEKTON,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iicAxoOG,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2017-02-20T21:17:07.963+0000)

I'm talking toplane things, OK? In mid even after nerf Zyra shits on him, but in top lane(If I don't pick Tryn or Yasuo) he gets free scaling while being massive lane bully, OK?

.....The same goes for Cassio and swain though.

And counter picks are a thing, Ryze was made to bully a.....damm lot of champs, still think he needs a rework.

Standgrounding1 votes

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.....The same goes for Cassio and swain though.

And counter picks are a thing, Ryze was made to bully a.....damm lot of champs, still think he needs a rework.

I main tanks and fighters(with an occassional ADC/ap assassins like Fiz and a phys caster like Jayce)

I usually get second or first pick and have no idea whether they pick that abomination or not.

But bullying in lane and outscaling(as oppossed to snowball and fall off) is unfair.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

[{quoted}](name=SMURF HENEKTON,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iicAxoOG,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-20T22:14:40.056+0000)

But bullying in lane and outscaling(as oppossed to snowball and fall off) is unfair.

That i agree on, and that is why i still think he needs a rework, his only weakness seems to be a extremely high base damage that grabs a item 3140 or item 3111 extremely quickly and breaks through his combo and starts bullying him before he can power up.

And even then he becomes a monster after a time.

Not k.

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