Ask an Irelia Main - Completed

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We’re thrilled to welcome Irelia Carries U to Ask a Champion Main! Irelia Carries U has been playing since Season 2 and has played over 4000 games on Irelia, finishing last season in Challenger.

UPDATE - This AMA is officially closed but Irelia Carries U will be checking in periodically tonight and tomorrow to answer a couple more of your questions.

Thanks for all of the great questions and a big thank you to Irelia Carries U for hanging out!


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What got you hooked on playing Irelia?

I used to main Katarina from lvl 5-30 but when I got into ranked she was always permabanned and I was always stuck playing top lane since no one wanted it. I started playing Irelia because no one at the time played her and I wanted a champion that wouldn’t get nerfed any time soon (hehe).

Who is your go-to champion if Irelia gets banned?

If Irelia gets banned I usually dodge, although sometimes I do play Kat or other random champions.

If you could describe Irelia’s playstyle in a sentence, what would it be?

Irelia is a mid-game assassin since she can burst squishies very easily, but as the game goes on she becomes more of a bruiser as her damage falls off.

What runes and masteries do you run on her?

I run 29% attack speed with scaling MR/Armor on her. A lot of attack speed makes her level 4/5/7/9 very potent in lane once you put points in her W and if Trinity Force is your only damage item. I use scaling runes since they become more valuable than flat runes relatively quickly.

For masteries I run 18/0/12 with Fervor. Fervor is the best on her because it's very easy to stack and does a ton of extra damage.

What is Irelia’s core item build?

Irelia’s core item build is Trinity Force and tanky items, with a possibility of a second damage item such as a BotRK or Maw. Rageblade is also strong in lane but falls off hard with time so I am hesitant to put it as a core item, whereas Trinity into tanky has been a staple for a very long time.

What are Irelia’s easiest matchups? What are her toughest?

Irelia does really well against squishy match ups and not so well versus tanky and sustain matchups, although she can do well against anything. She doesn’t have hard counters, so although some matchups are hard, they are not impossible.

Something like Malphite or Tryndamere would be annoying to deal with, whereas something like Jayce or Kennen would be a lot easier.

What is Irelia’s main job in laning phase? What about Teamfights?

Irelia’s main job in the laning phase is to try and get Trinity as soon as possible. She does well in lane and once it’s completed she can 1v1 almost anything and becomes a very potent ganker. Trinity should be done within 11-14 mins and allows Irelia to have a massive impact on the game when running around.

Irelia 2v3

Her job in team fights changes throughout the game; when Trinity is completed she acts as more of an assassin than anything and as the game goes on she fills the role of a tanky bruiser/disruptor, since her damage begins to fall off but you get tankier over time. You just want to be a nuisance to the enemy team after that point, getting stuns off on squishy targets and so on.

If someone is playing Irelia for the first time, what is the most important thing to bear in mind?

If someone is playing Irelia for the first time, I think it's best to understand that she is not a complicated champion. She isn’t hard to do well with but that extra bit to really utilize her kit can take some time and creativity.

Just because you do well with her after 5-10 games of playing her, it doesn’t mean you can’t get better with her.

How do you use Bladesurge to set up a trade?

I usually use Bladesurge on a low-health minion that is close to my opponent for a reset. I’ll Bladesurge, then stun and activate my Hiten Style (W) to go for a long trade. I try to use Q at the very end of my W duration or if my target gets out of melee range in order to get as many autos in as possible.

Irelia Minion Reset

It’s also a good escape tool if there are minions around in case you get ganked so using it early is typically not very smart.

How do you make the most of Equilibrium Strike without getting too low on health?

I think Equilibrium Strike (E) is best used when you are around the same health with your opponent since it stuns if both players are the same % HP. It's easy to panic and use it off cooldown but being patient with it when you are higher % HP than the opponent when in a long duel in order to get the stun is definitely beneficial.

What’s a neat Irelia trick that players may not know?

For some reason a lot of people don’t seem to utilize low HP minions when the opponent is running away. If you Q a minion right next to them and continue autoing you might get a few more autos than directly Q’ing them. Unless your W is about to end there’s no reason to be impatient with her Q

Irelia Chase

Have you played Irelia in other roles outside of Top? How did that go?

I’ve played Irelia everywhere. She works mid decently but she is easy to camp and if she falls behind she’s useless. The other roles didn’t go too well.

What’s your favorite Irelia skin?

Nightblade is my favorite.

What’s the best Irelia play you have ever pulled off?



It’s my favorite because my reaction timings were on point and my team had enough time to help me turn it around for a triple kill.

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332 Comments

BetweenSkill11 votes

Irelia main AMA?

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Better nerf irelia [slayer-jinx-wink]

Śimon8 votes

Pretty hard to click q man i always try my best

Odimeer6 votes

so i got into this post to read, and as soon as i read he got to challenger and also DODGES when his champ gets banned or doesn't get to play. this sickens me, someone who could have 10, 20 or even more dodges can be rewarded is sickening. this needs to be worked on, changed, or at least looked at. people like this shouldn't be rewarded for just waiting a few mins to dodge. i know i am not the greatest player in the world by far, but for the people out there that play this game for entertainment with a mild competitiveness, who don't dodge, don't afk, try to be a team player, and just get shafted because we haven't mastered to get to gold or higher seems a little unnerving that someone who could dodge X amount of times and cry that they don't get the one champ they can play/carry with and get all the challenger rights.

the Anarchit3cht7 votes

I agree with you. They might be really good at the game, but they should not be featured if they openly admit to dodging in this manner.

Red Onion King1 votes

Lots of people are saying this but why? You may respond "Well it's toxic." Why is it toxic?

Pika Fox1 votes

It undermines the point of a ranked queue. If you were able to freely dodge every single ranked game where you had an unfavorable match up, then champion select wouldnt be much of a point.

Red Onion King1 votes

That's invalid, you can't freely dodge every single ranked game. The LP loss for one is small sure, so you basically get one dodge per game, but the ledge is steep. I'm not saying that you should be allowed to dodge freely, read the string that I already had with The Anarchit3cht.

Pika Fox1 votes

"every single ranked game where you had an unfavorable match up" =/= "freely dodge every single ranked game".

Red Onion King1 votes

Are you saying that as the system stands, you can freely dodge every ranked game with an unfavorable match up? The semantics don't make a difference when it's the same either way. The odds that you'll have an unfavorable match up two games in a row aren't so low that it won't happen, and a drop of 13 LP would be enough to make me think twice about dodging again. I also doubt you read the discussion that has already happened if you're pointing out such a petty conflict.

EDIT: Let me add that you need to state what you believe the point of ranked queue is. In the rawest form the point would be to advance, would it not? To see how high you can get.

Pika Fox1 votes

His statement is that if irelia is picked/banned already, he dodges. So yes, apparently you can dodge every poor matchup.

Pregame lobby is part of the game. An enemy picking/banning your main is supposed to be rewarded by having a much easier game due to you not getting your pick. Thats part of why bans even exist. If you dodge because of this, then they do not receive the reward they should have gotten for banning properly.

Red Onion King1 votes

I still don't believe you read the other discussion and in exchange for dodging you're losing LP, consecutive dodges increases the LP loss and the timer to a point that you're not even going to get to play that day. If I get a Blitzcrank mid pick, I'm probably going to dodge, or a Yasuo support. We are allowed to dodge, and so dodging becomes a tool. I haven't dodged, but I've been in some situations that I probably should have, and the more I look at it, the more I think I will. You've also avoided every question I've directed at you and you just keep recycling your ideology rather than making an actual argument. I'm not going to bother until you actually answer the questions I've posed back at you.

Pika Fox1 votes

You lose LP in exchange for a dodge is irrelevant; the enemy team didnt receive the boon that they rightfully deserved. And i answered your questions perfectly fine; dodging every single game they dont get irelia is, by definition, dodging every single unfavorable matchup. People with a history of dodging often or a pattern of dodging certain scenarios (such as their one trick being picked/banned) should be punished more severely for their dodges. If you get a blitz mid or a yasuo support, deal with it like everyone else in the game. Chances are theyll carry you. Not that it matters, because its not even remotely close to the same issue (a one trick dodging every single unfavorable matchup and not giving the enemy team LP they deserve)

Red Onion King1 votes

He can play Irelia into an unfavorable match up, he never said he dodged those. Here's a question you ignored.

"Let me add that you need to state what you believe the point of ranked queue is. In the rawest form the point would be to advance, would it not? To see how high you can get."

You did not answer it. Since you're obviously not going to read the other thread here's a copy paste for you. It's literally right above this one.

"I've never dodged a ranked game, but I don't have a problem with people dodging because they're one-trick ponies and they didn't get their champ. In fact, if I'm on the team of a one-trick pony and their champ gets banned, I WANT them to dodge. That way I'm not at a huge disadvantage because of a player that doesn't know how to play whatever champ they picked. I would rather wait an extra 30 seconds then have an ally that doesn't know what they're doing and lose a match as a result. If I already showed my pick to the enemy team, I'll probably back out of queue after they dodge and immediately re queue, so that the enemy team doesn't know my preferred pick. It's also not against the rules. There is a penalty for doing it, but you're allowed to do it. In exchange for some LP loss you can dodge, wait 3 minutes, and then re queue. The penalties are there to prevent from it happening on a mass scale, but I doubt riot minds it happening at the rate that it currently does."

My counterpoint is that it creates a more toxic environment for me to have a player on my team with no idea how to play the champ they picked, and then have the entire team start flaming and blaming him for how the game goes than it is to have someone dodge and wait an extra 30 seconds."

The enemy doesn't deserve a boon if someone dodges. That's ridiculous. They didn't do anything to deserve it. And for your point of properly banning, no one bands properly in solo queue anyway. They ban OP's or champs they don't want to see, not champs that would be negative for their planned comp/comps.

Pika Fox1 votes

Irrelevant. Champion select is irrefutably part of ranked. It is designed and meant to be part of the gameplay experience. A team banning a champ that a one trick uses should be rewarded. Thus, yes, it is a boon, and they deserve that boon. Else the pick/ban phase shouldnt exist in ranked, and you should just get random roles every game. Clearly that is not the case.

The dodge denies the opposing team the boon they rightfully deserve.

PotatoBytes5 votes

I main irelia because of you <3 What are your thoughts on item 3124 after the rework for it? I used to rush it always before rework :p

Irelia Carries U8 votes

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I main irelia because of you <3 What are your thoughts on item 3124 after the rework for it? I used to rush it always before rework :p

its too expensive now and takes too long to stack up (6 autos) so i havent really been building it at all, its not a laning phase item anymore and i dont like its team fighting potential due to how long it takes to stack up, so i have just been rushing trinity and getting tanky after

Misses Old Talon5 votes

Ah yes. The all mighty stunning an enemy for 3 seconds (2.5 if you really wanna be picky.) and then killing them before the stun is gone.

Irelia Carries U26 votes

[{quoted}](name=DaughterOf Exile,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZ3pZEmA,comment-id=0030,timestamp=2016-05-10T21:36:25.357+0000)

Ah yes. The all mighty stunning an enemy for 3 seconds (2.5 if you really wanna be picky.) and then killing them before the stun is gone.

2 seconds

Aeszarck4 votes

All right, so I enjoy playing Irelia a lot, and I have a ton of questions! If you can answer a few (or even one), I'd be stoked.

  1. I've been following a guide which says to start W,Q,E then max either W or E depending on whether you're going to have extended trades (against a tanky opponent) or going to be doing more burst (versus a squishy). Q is maxed last. What are your thoughts?
  2. When is the best time to roam as Irelia? I know this is kind of broad, but I'm really curious. If I'm winning lane, should I try to destroy the tower before roaming, or push the wave to tower and roam mid? Should I roam if I'm losing lane really hard?
  3. What are Irelia's most important powerspikes? I watched one of your videos of you versus an Olaf, and you noted that Olaf has a level two powerspike, whereas Irelia's is at level four. Are there any other notable ones that I should be aware of?
  4. How aggressive shoud I be during the laning phase versus a ranged opponent? Should I try to start a trade the moment I hit three, assuming I am lower health than the ranged opponent?
  5. How do you deal with Nasus? I'm not sure how much you deal with him at your MMR, but I hate playing against Nasus as Irelia. I hate playing against Nasus as a lot of champions, but I feel really helpless as Irelia. Also, do you think Quicksilver Sash is a smart buy against him for the Wither?
  6. What about Pantheon? I don't like going against him either; his trading seems so much better, and it's difficult to avoid his harass.
  7. How important is it that Irelia is part of her team when a teamfight happens, as opposed to splitpushing or stopping a split push?
  8. You said that there's a possibility for a second damage item in Irelia's build, like a Maw or Blade of the Ruined King. Should I get one of those only when I'm ahead (then go full defensive), and go full defensive after Trinity Force otherwise?
  9. Do you start Doran's Blade or Corrupting Potion?

Thanks so much!

PotatoBytes3 votes
  1. max Q 2nd if it is most important (against ranged champs) depends on their team!
  2. anytime she gets a point in W I think, is considered a power spike
  3. watch how to deal with nasus by dong huap on youtube
  4. Corrupting potion, definitely
Irelia Carries U10 votes

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All right, so I enjoy playing Irelia a lot, and I have a ton of questions! If you can answer a few (or even one), I'd be stoked.

  1. I've been following a guide which says to start W,Q,E then max either W or E depending on whether you're going to have extended trades (against a tanky opponent) or going to be doing more burst (versus a squishy). Q is maxed last. What are your thoughts?
  2. When is the best time to roam as Irelia? I know this is kind of broad, but I'm really curious. If I'm winning lane, should I try to destroy the tower before roaming, or push the wave to tower and roam mid? Should I roam if I'm losing lane really hard?
  3. What are Irelia's most important powerspikes? I watched one of your videos of you versus an Olaf, and you noted that Olaf has a level two powerspike, whereas Irelia's is at level four. Are there any other notable ones that I should be aware of?
  4. How aggressive shoud I be during the laning phase versus a ranged opponent? Should I try to start a trade the moment I hit three, assuming I am lower health than the ranged opponent?
  5. How do you deal with Nasus? I'm not sure how much you deal with him at your MMR, but I hate playing against Nasus as Irelia. I hate playing against Nasus as a lot of champions, but I feel really helpless as Irelia. Do you think Quicksilver Sash is a smart buy against him for the Wither?
  6. What about Pantheon? I don't like going against him either; his trading seems so much better, and it's difficult to avoid his harass
  7. How important is it that Irelia is part of her team when a teamfight happens, as opposed to splitpushing or stopping a split push?
  8. You said that there's a possibility for a second damage item in Irelia's build, like a Maw or Blade of the Ruined King. Should I get one of those only when I'm ahead, and go full defensive after Trinity Force otherwise?
  9. Do you start Doran's Blade or Corrupting Potion?

Thanks so much!

  1. I'd start Q lvl 1 vs ranged champions, E lvl 1 vs melee champions and then get W last, so Q>E>W or E>Q>W for the first 3 lvls, i max W vs most things and E vs stuff like leblanc if i am mid lane, generally anything that is difficult to auto
  2. best time to roam is when you complete trinity force regardless of how fed/behind you are, it allows you to gank through lane relatively easily
  3. 4/5/7/9/13 and when you complete trinity are her most important spikes, assuming you max W, if you max E it is 7/9/11+, so tl;dr when your e or w are maxed or both
  4. vs a ranged opponent you can actually start at lvl 1, i take q and jump on them get a few autos and walk in the brush to drop creep agro, otherwise its fairly easy to all in them after lvl 4 if you max w, if u max e you might need to wait till lvl 7
  5. hes actually fairly easy, a lot of people get mercs but tabi is very good vs him as hes mostly physical damage and hes easy to soften up and all in, though its easiest to kill him pre 6 and snowball the lane from there and roam around while he stacks up, since he forces his team to play a 4v5 while he ramps up pretty much
  6. pantheon is very strong pre 6 but after 6 you should have the advantage since his ult doesnt really do anything for him in an all in, so id suggest fighting him post 6
  7. its just reliant on you having tp, if you dont have tp you should be with your team, if you have tp feel free to split push
  8. you can build damage after trinity if you think that you can get away with it, i personally prefer to get the CDR defensive items when im ahead (randuins if i am behind, anything with hp is great if you are behind) but if u feel like the game will be won anyway feel free to build dmg after trinity
  9. i prefer starting dorans blade because its great sustain with her w
kytzuni4 votes

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Irelia Carries U8 votes

[{quoted}](name=Grumpy Drump,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZ3pZEmA,comment-id=003b,timestamp=2016-05-10T22:24:29.094+0000)

Do you ever feel bad about playing an assassin and not only that but maining one? 90% of players hate you is what I'm saying. (the other 10% are assassin mains) Also, if you don't get the champ you want, YOU DODGE? I didn't want to play this match that took me three minutes to get into anyway.

yeah i dodge if i dont get her

Electric Buyers1 votes

i.e. If somebody bans Irelia, they are ghosting...

LankPants2 votes

Right now Irelia has a ban rate of 2.4% in D+.

At that ban rate ICU should expect to see Irelia banned in 1 out of every 40ish games. I can tell you he see's a lot more bans than that.

Reiyalin3 votes

Hey ICU, I'm a big fan of yours and always find your guides and stuff super helpful. I really started to play Irelia a lot cause of your videos and stream!

Earlier this season there was a time you recommended lifesteal quints along with masteries to boost lifesteal. I was wondering what you thought about that setup with how Warlords is right now.

Also, I liked to rush the previous rendition of Guinsoos a lot because of both the burst and the help with waveclear that it brought as I always felt like I couldn't clear waves that fast on Irelia. Is there something I am doing wrong or what are your recommendations to help remedy this? I have started putting Titanic Hydra into my build to get the aoe along with some extra tankiness but I feel like there's other items that could be more slot efficient.

Thanks for being part of this Ask a Champion Main and I hope to see more content from you!

Irelia Carries U5 votes

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Hey ICU, I'm a big fan of yours and always find your guides and stuff super helpful. I really started to play Irelia a lot cause of your videos and stream!

Earlier this season there was a time you recommended lifesteal quints along with masteries to boost lifesteal. I was wondering what you thought about that setup with how Warlords is right now.

Also, I liked to rush the previous rendition of Guinsoos a lot because of both the burst and the help with waveclear that it brought as I always felt like I couldn't clear waves that fast on Irelia. Is there something I am doing wrong or what are your recommendations to help remedy this? I have started putting Titanic Hydra into my build to get the aoe along with some extra tankiness but I feel like there's other items that could be more slot efficient.

Thanks for being part of this Ask a Champion Main and I hope to see more content from you!

warlords got nerfed recently and i reasoned that if i run 29% attack speed instead of 15% and 4.5% lifesteal i'd get 1-2 extra autos which is pretty much the same sustain if not better and not to mention the extra damage

also rushing trinity will allow you to waveclear easily since her q applies the spellblade so you shouldnt need anything more than trinity. you shouldn't need a titanic hydra imo

OceansAteAlaska3 votes

Can you max out q first then w and still be very effective? Either going bruiser like or going full ad.

EDIT: Thanks Guys, this'll help improve my irelia skills thank you :)[slayer-jinx-wink]

Irelia Carries U22 votes

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Can you max out q first then w and still be very effective? Either going bruiser like or going full ad.

no, maxing q should usually be done last, although if you prefer you can max it after W. Maxing W gives you sustain, true damage, and dueling potential. Its just amazing in lane and does wonders vs any matchup. The only other option is maxing e for the stun duration vs champions that are hard to auto attack

Teemo Carry 4202 votes

I would only start q of their top laner is ranged but never max it first

Teemo Carry 4206 votes

Wait this is the wrong ask a main page.

dr sexy rengar3 votes

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OceansAteAlaska1 votes

every champion takes some understanding, then there's Warwick

PresidentShrek2 votes

and then there's Ryze and Tryndamere lmfao

Shroom Junkie2 votes

What do you think the best thing to do is when laning against a good Irelia? Most specifically, what do good Teemo players do that you hate and can possibly beat you with? Or is it generally just a stompfest every time you face one?

Irelia Carries U3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shroom Junkie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZ3pZEmA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-05-10T19:25:08.142+0000)

What do you think the best thing to do is when laning against a good Irelia? Most specifically, what do good Teemo players do that you hate and can possibly beat you with? Or is it generally just a stompfest every time you face one?

when laning vs a good irelia its best to kite her w, any good teemo player that i lane against that does this makes the lane very hard. If you can set her up with shrooms before she gets on you, make sure shes slowed and as soon as she starts turning back feel free to auto her as much as you possibly can :)

NightOfLight2 votes

Whats a good item on irelia for a first buy in a case where trinity force would be delayed and would take forever to build ie trouble csing

Irelia Carries U11 votes

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Whats a good item on irelia for a first buy in a case where trinity force would be delayed and would take forever to build ie trouble csing

probably a hex drinker if you are behind vs an ap matchup, or rushing tabi vs an ad matchup if you are struggling in lane

Raxistaicho2 votes
  1. Do you still take the scaling defensive masteries against hard lanes such as Trynd or Pantheon?

  2. Similar to the above, do you still take Doran's Blade start against somebody who's gonna harass you a lot in the early game?

Irelia Carries U4 votes

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  1. Do you still take the scaling defensive masteries against hard lanes such as Trynd or Pantheon?

  2. Similar to the above, do you still take Doran's Blade start against somebody who's gonna harass you a lot in the early game?

  1. i still run 18/0/12 regardless of lane, i may rush tabi vs either if i am struggling though otherwise its the same as any lane
  2. i do take dorans blade and play safe because if i make it to lvl 4 without losing too hard early i will have a much stronger all in post lvl 4+, and i can also buy another dorans without sinking in too much money to greatly boost my laning power (sustain)
Raxistaicho1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Carries U,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZ3pZEmA,comment-id=00190000,timestamp=2016-05-10T20:12:50.551+0000)

  1. i still run 18/0/12 regardless of lane, i may rush tabi vs either if i am struggling though otherwise its the same as any lane
  2. i do take dorans blade and play safe because if i make it to lvl 4 without losing too hard early i will have a much stronger all in post lvl 4+, and i can also buy another dorans without sinking in too much money to greatly boost my laning power (sustain)

Sorry, I meant runes, not masteries.

What do you do vs Teemo? @.@ I had that lane recently and it wasn't too great in the early stages. To be fair I was rusty as hell with Irelia.

Party Crasher2 votes

Yeah basically Charge a minion near him, Auto until he Q's you, the second you get blinded stun him, continue trade, then charge him when he speed boosts... Do this with a Mantle +pots or Corrupting potion for added sustain.

I recommend get a phage and Spectre's cowl, then get a Sheen and you're golden.

Power Of Syndra2 votes

I remember you from the old Forums.

I wonder if you remember me. We played once or twice together. With Better Ban Sona and Mystic Blue Fox. Boy, I miss North America.

Irelia x Syndra forever

Raxistaicho2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Power Of Syndra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iZ3pZEmA,comment-id=002c,timestamp=2016-05-10T21:15:07.399+0000)

I remember you from the old Forums.

I wonder if you remember me. We played once or twice together. With Better Ban Sona and Mystic Blue Fox. Boy, I miss North America.

Irelia x Syndra forever

Irelia x Syndra? :O

Lord o teh Memes3 votes

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Irelia x Syndra? :O

hush now

I M2 votes

how r u so guud at landing ur Q?!?!?!??!?!?!?!11111

Mephyt3 votes

Hopefully better than your spelling.

dwarfkaf1 votes

Hopefully better than your reading comprehension.

KillerKell4 votes

Hopefully better than your.... err... okay, I got nothing.

Anyone else that can save this chain?

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