Ask a Zyra Main - Completed

RiotJawstheMusical·4/19/2016, 6:08:13 PM·43 votes·79,228 views
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Zyra is part of the Mid-Season Magic update! This interview was written based on Zyra's current state, but ask Melyn any questions you may have about her changes in the comments below!

We’re really excited to welcome Melyn, a high-Diamond Zyra main who’s been making his opponents feel the thorn’s embrace for over 1500 games!

When he’s not building straight damage and blocking skillshots with plants, he’s working on his PhD in Applied Math and teaching Calculus at UC Davis, as well as using his math powers to theorycraft even more optimal builds!

We caught up with him to learn more about his league background, how many flash-engages it takes to get to Diamond, and the finer points of stealing Baron as Jungle Zyra.

UPDATE - This AMA is officially closed! Thanks for all of the great questions and a big thank you to Melyn for hanging out and sharing his thoughts! ------

How did you get into League of Legends?

My brother wanted me to try watching Esports, so he took me to Season 3 Worlds, I had no idea what was going on and don’t remember any of the champions, but given that we now have SKT Zyra, I think it was a sign. I then started playing Twitch top (quickly grew out of that!) and have been playing ever since.

Where does your Summoner name come from?

You will see there’s a pattern here. It came from my brother. I directly stole the name MelliMelon from when we played MapleStory together growing up. When I got into Star Wars: the Old Republic and wanted to make it look more exotic, I changed Melon into Melyn.

What got you hooked on playing Zyra?

I don’t like conflict so while I was leveling up, I would always fill. As I’m sure anyone who browses forums is aware, that means I became a support main. However, I was the person who would never use their actives. Shurelya’s, Locket, Crucible -- they were all wasted items for me.

When I discovered Zyra, a champion where you’re actually supposed to build damage if you play her as a support, it was inevitable that I would eventually main her. As I became more well-known in the Zyra community, a lot of people started asking me to play her in other roles as well, so I branched out, pardon the plant pun. I think she’s very strong as a support and mid laner as well as being viable in the jungle and top lane.

Zyra Double

Who is your go-to champion if Zyra gets banned?

Last season before I started honing in on my stream identity as a Zyra player, I often played Leona, Blitzcrank, Soraka, Vel’koz, and Brand as support, or Rammus, Maokai, and Nunu in the jungle. Whenever Zyra is banned or picked now, I return to one of those champions.

If you could describe Zyra’s playstyle in a sentence, what would it be?

Zyra is the most flexible mage in League of Legends since she can play in almost any role, build for almost any situation, and has the tools to poke, burst, harass, or bring utility as needed.

What runes and masteries do you run on her?

I have about 10 rune pages for Zyra, but most often I either run a penetration page (magic penetration on everything except for seals) or a scaling CDR page (magic penetration quints and marks, defensive seals, and scaling CDR glyphs).

What is Zyra’s core item build?

Zyra is extremely flexible and you need to decide what kind of playstyle the match warrants. It also depends on what role you’re playing:
  • In the Jungle, her core is often Runic Echoes, Sorcerer Shoes, Haunting Guise, and Rylai’s Crystal Scepter.
  • In the Support role, her core is Frost Queen’s, Sorcerer Shoes, Rylai’s, and Liandry’s.
  • In the Mid lane the build will change depending on the game, but most recently for her core I’ve been favoring Sorc Boots, Morello, Haunting Guise, and Void Staff.
  • In the Top lane, the build is similar to mid, but recently I’vebeen experimenting with a bruiser Zyra build that makes use of Zz’rot, going Rod of Ages, Banner of Command, Zz’rot Portal, Liandry’s, and Rylai’s.
What are Zyra’s easiest matchups? What are her toughest?

Zyra’s skillshots are very easy to dodge by a capable opponent,so she performs much better against immobile champs like the following:
  • Mid - Twisted Fate, Brand, and Varus
  • Bot - Jinx, Jhin, and Tristana
  • Support - Bard, Soraka, and Sona.
As a mid laner, she struggles against any champion who is mobile, can kill her quickly, or has long-range poke, such as Zed, Yasuo, Katarina, and Xerath.

As a support, she struggles against sustain and hard engage supports such as Nami, Blitzcrank, and Leona.

What is Zyra’s main job in laning phase? What about Teamfights?

In the laning phase, Zyra has one of the most oppressive early game from levels 2-6. She’s a bully that can harass an opponent out of lane and easily get an early kill advantage from someone who underestimates her, which is common as she’s not played that often.

In teamfights, one of the strongest ways of playing Zyra in a teamfight is by zoning the enemy backline, but it depends on what your team needs and your item build. More damage lets you assassinate enemy carries, while more CDR and utility such as a Rylai’s build will let you peel tanks off of your backline.

Zyra Teamfight

If the enemy dives you, you can set up a wall of enraged plants with her ultimate that carries will not be able to pass without taking a huge amount of damage and exposing themselves to its large knockup, which gives your team time to deal with their front line.

If someone is playing Zyra for the first time, what is the most important thing to bear in mind?

The most important thing for a first time Zyra player is to realize that you are the slowest champion in the game, have the 4th lowest health, and no dashes, so play as if you’ll die from one Karthus auto attack, as that is not too far from the truth.

Protect your backline and only try to make big plays from the fog of war or if your opponent is already CCed.

What are some neat Zyra tricks that players may not know?

You can use your plants to block skillshots. This comes in handy against Blitzcrank, Lee Sin, Thresh, and more!

Blitz Hook Block

Also, Zyra’s plants can be used to detonate Teemo shrooms, Shaco traps, and Jhin lotuses. This can be a great way to deal with these when you don’t have an available sweeper.

Teemo shroom pop

What’s your favorite Zyra skin?

Haunted Zyra. I think she has one of the best splash arts in the game right now.

What’s the best Zyra play you’ve ever pulled off?

During a Zyra jungle game in my promotion series, my entire team was dead and they had 5 members alive, most with more than 75% HP. At the last minute, I flashed over the wall, ulted, and got a quadra kill as well as taking the baron.



Thanks for taking the time to chat with us! If readers want to reach out, where can they find you?

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Hang out in the comments and ask Melyn any Zyra-related questions you may have!

225 Comments

BetweenSkill4/19/2016, 6:11:48 PM57 votes

Does your Zyra gameplay improve if you ingest compost and water while sunbathing beforehand?

invisiblecat14/19/2016, 7:27:09 PM17 votes

YES I KNEW ZYRA JUNGLE WAS A THING, ALL OF YOU WHO CALLED IT A "TROLL PICK" CAN SHUT UP NOW

Kitties Mew4/19/2016, 7:02:19 PM16 votes

I just wanted to say I'm just glad that there are still Zyra mains out in the world and that warms my item 3110 heart

Kaipop4/19/2016, 6:23:45 PM8 votes

OMG Melyn didn't know u were doing this how did you get this opportunity? And guys support his stream he is entertaining and great at Zyra :). He will be streaming reworked PBE Zyra soon.

Dataless4/19/2016, 6:43:40 PM7 votes

This post makes me happy, as I'm also an avid Zyra player and she is my go-to support pick when I'm not playing Bard

just a harmless flower

askild994/19/2016, 6:33:46 PM6 votes

Hi! I am a Zyra main as well, and I got really exited to see this pop up on the boards!

What should I do when I end up against a good Blitzcrank? I recently got absolutely destroyed by Blitz in lane, and quickly faded into irrelevancy as my harass and peel became less and less reliable throughout the game.

What kinds of items should I be getting if I fall behind? Should I just build normally?

I also find Sivir to be a rather nasty one to play against as Zyra. When I go to poke she can just E>Q and win the trade easily. I have tried blowing her E with my snare, and then going for a Q, but that worked out poorly as she outranged me with her own Q and stayed back until her E was up again. What is the trick to playing around her Q and E?

Cryo004/19/2016, 6:32:23 PM6 votes

When you play Zyra as a support, how do you not end up kill stealing ? I always somehow end up getting the last hit on the enemy champions.

despicableMEE4/19/2016, 6:15:23 PM6 votes

What are you thoughts about the upcoming Zyra changes for the midseason update?

Ale non è male4/19/2016, 6:28:19 PM4 votes

Is it worthy to learn Zyra as flex pick ahead of someone other mage support like Lulu, Morgana, Karma or even Soraka?

How to deal when playing support with diving/hooking supports given her squishiness and/or to some support that has an easy time destroying her plants thus nullifying part of her damage

Jack The Mouse4/19/2016, 10:17:20 PM4 votes

Im glad im not the only one out there. I don't believe in passive supports, and I dislike playing champions like Janna or Soraka. In my opinion, I like to peel for my adc by caving in the enemy adcs skull. I tend to be "That" guy playing normals with Illaoi, Trundle, Zyra, and Titenic Leona support. I believe supports can be just as helpful by dishing out regular consistent damage along with the normal warding and ccing.

emreecheek4/19/2016, 6:36:47 PM3 votes

I'm really bad and new to LoL, but, I wonder if you've ever experienced difficulty in playing Zyra "safe."

In mid/top, how do you manage farming in the early laning phase against an oppressive matchup (i.e. Zed)?

I find it difficult to manage any harass at all without pushing the lane, making it harder to farm safely as I'm more exposed. To play safely and farm effectively, does one just abandon harassing altogether?

Fondling Gems4/19/2016, 6:18:03 PM3 votes

What are your feelings about the mage update/changed items?

Vhan87654/19/2016, 9:07:45 PM3 votes

Lol, beforehand, I just want to point out I know how great the feel of your best Zyra moment is lol. I had a very similar moment with Trist during a game of One for All. (Snagged Baron with my team dead but only got the triple lol.)

Anyways though, I'm mostly just here to question on securing kills with Zyra; as well as staying alive more often, now that I think about it. I got this champion just recently because I got her Haunted skin from crafting and she had been free at the time, so after playing her a few times I realized I was in love.

Now though, problems come in at, yeah, securing kills and staying alive. I feel I'm, a decent enough Zyra. In the games I've played her, generally I have done pretty damn amazing with her each time. But the problem is that I'm unable to follow up my damage by securing kills and then usually end up falling in team fights as well. I apologize for the lack of information to go off of, I just woke up pretty recently and the brain isn't kicking in yet lol, so that is the best I've got. So I guess any tips, tricks or anything that can perhaps help me to stay alive and as well as simply look for the right engage would be well enough.

Oh, and I guess since I'm here still, mind if I question on how your level up Zyra's skills? Cause I've got no clue what to max first on her (and have been too lazy to look it up), so my skill leveling has been completely variant each game and I feel that heavily is impacting my Zyra. Last thing then, I guess I might as well just question you on my Zyra build real fast as well. Now, mind you, I mostly play ARAM only, so I built towards her and not her role. So this is just a very general build, no specifics for counters items or anything.

item 3151, item 3116, item 3089, item 3165, item 3025, item 1311

Honestly, that was a bit too general. I was having a hard time deciding which of my itemset would be base Zyra to go with lol. But I think that settles nicely. (Perhaps I should have just imgur'd my itemset...)

Regardless though, thank you for taking the time to both read and reply to this.

Vekkna4/19/2016, 9:28:01 PM3 votes

I've been playing your "bruiser top" build in mid basically this entire season. Between the splitpush gods (with weak towers), hypertanks, and Olympic movement speeds everywhere, it works better for me than other things I've tried. Mainly because it's versatile enough to work in almost any situation.

The movement speed on zz'rot is such a massive quality of life improvement.

FrankerX4/20/2016, 2:36:58 AM2 votes

"ask a zyra main" okay why is zyra the new illaoi? spawning stuff around her randomly. speaking of which, when will illaoi now be reworked?

DeynaTaggerung4/19/2016, 8:50:21 PM2 votes

Love that blocking hooks with Zyra's plants is in there, it's personally one of my favorite things to do as a Zyra players. Feels kind of silly when you mess it up though :P

Fiona from Shrek4/19/2016, 9:21:44 PM1 votes

How do you clear the first few camps as Zyra Jungle? It seems pretty hard to me, but really fun at the same time

Yasukuu4/19/2016, 9:45:30 PM1 votes

I've recently started playing Zyra and I already love her! Those plants, high damage and herself - this is the champion I was always looking for! I even got a skin from Hextech Crafting - Wildfire Zyra - so far my second favourite skin (after Star Guardian Lux of course :P). But after watching upcoming changes to her I'm kinda worried that I couldn't love her like I loved her old one :( I'm scared of how am I going to grow those plants properly if they will be spawning passively. Melyn, how do you think, are you going to love her new version like the old one? More or less? P.S. I love your plays as Zyra and I wish I one day become as good as you at playing beautiful plant queen Zyra

Kei1434/19/2016, 7:47:57 PM1 votes

Sorry if these are asked before. But I'm going to fire the questions first before I read through every post.

  1. I know that you can use your plants and dragon and not take any damage, any other tips for jungling zyra?

  2. How the hell do you jungle with zyra? Esp in the early clears.

  3. Did you give any input to the upcoming zyra changes for MYMU?

  4. What do you think of the upcoming zyra changes and what are you excited about?

  5. How do you think the uncontrollable seeds from the passive will affect your game play?