AP cannot continue to be this unbalanced.

Popperofski·2/4/2020, 10:52:16 AM·4 votes·1,739 views

AP champions dominate every role in the game, except adc, a role kept exceptionally unbalanced to crit using ranged carries for reasons.

Higher winrates/playrates in top as an ap champion regardless of subclass. Higher winrates/playrates in mid, as expected Higher winrates/playrates than junglers, but by the smallest margin Higher winrates/playrates than actual supports not named Pyke

champion.gg source.

If you look at any AP item and compare the use of it vs any AD item, of similar purpose, they're not only more gold efficient, but are generalist. Meaning, doesn't take a brain to click the good item which is all of them. CDR is abundant for no reason. Champions like Diana Ekko Kassadin Fizz just lose any CD gating at 40/45%

MR is trash. Armor is not too far behind because of the sole fact adc itemization comes sooner than armor can surpress AD scaling, but even building properly against an AP opponent item 3135 utterly negates it. Not only are MR items inefficient in gold to stat value, but MR itself mitigates less damage than armor does per point of damage. >lolwiki

with all this established. There needs to be an ap item culling, a reformat of the formula for ap dmg calculation, or an across the boartd champion nerf im not sure how to approach it without just stat stacking AD to be better, and it doesnt solve anything on the ap side.-

6 Comments

Thefrostyviking2/4/2020, 2:23:59 PM4 votes

Do not use champion.gg, that site is kind of trolling a lot, instead use U.gg as Riot themselves endorsed it.

And on there we see the following =

Toplane top pickrates 5 =

Sett Mordekaiser Darius Ornn Fiora

Mordekaiser,is he a problem because he builds AP or is it because he is seemingly designed to crap on other melee in range by means of his kit and how simple, forgiving and yet rewarding he is to play?

Even if you convert him to AD i am not at all convinced he´d be any "healthier" with his kit working as it does.

The next AP champ does not appear until spot nr 12 which is vlad.

Jungle top 5 pickrates :

LeeSin Ekko Elise JarvanIV Khazix As far as the mix between Ap and AD goes there is no real problem.

And most champs in the top 20 are AD.

Midlane =

Yasuo Diana Zed Katarina Kassadin

Well its the intended role for mages and assassins, makes sense for there to be more AP users here.

ADC =

There is presently no AP user among the marksmen, even Kai´sa builds onhit/AD at this time.

Support =

Thresh Leona Nautilus Nami Lulu '

I mean sure most of these guys do AP damage and build AP support items but are they problematic for that reason or another? If AP support items were too strong we´d be seeing more support "mages" more i believe.....


All in all i honestly do not believe AP items or the stat itself are outright strong, the issue´s lie with the fact that there is a lack of good MR items as there are only two main ones at this time and both are specialized and do not always fit.

Another issue would be that AD fighter items are insanely expensive, i mean sure it makes sense that trinity force is but i cant really justify the rest.

As for void staff, this item is individually strong this is true, but armor pen items stack and they become remove more resistances when that is done while also generally having more potent anti tank abilities.

The Flashless2/4/2020, 3:04:50 PM4 votes

Oh please. Assasins are dominating the midlane, Juggernauts are dominating the toplane, mages are a statistical rarity in the botlane, and jungle has like 3 AP champions out of 30~ish. The vast majority of top picks are always AD yet you never see anyone screeching about how OP AD is.

vgamedude2/4/2020, 7:11:24 PM1 votes

Literally has their own lane where riot enforces one single class in the role for 10 years complains about AP users