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Can we disable exp gain in Dominion? The bots are getting out of hand

Doril··59 votes·2,764 views

Somewhere between 30-50% occurrence in the last 20 games I've played tried to play in champ select (Dodge cause of bots). That's pretty bad. They're super obvious too (no masteries, only play free champs, select ghost/heal summoners).

Yeah I know, Riot doesn't care about dominion etc, etc...

...but might as well try.

Edit: Why my percent is guesswork.

34 Comments

Paletongue10 votes

I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to fix the bot problem than disabling experience.

Like honestly, I got through level 10-29 by playing dominion because normals get very painful in the middle. I really do like dominion, but it would feel so shitty to go through an entire game and not receive any experience. I'm already butthurt that Champion Mastery can't be gained there, but thats a different subject.

Also slightly offtopic, what level is the account you're trying to play on? I basically never see bots anymore because I'm always matched with other level 30 players.

Doril6 votes

I'd be indifferent to the actual solution if they could actually remove the bot problem. But the fact is, Riot has stated they don't have the resources/desire/whatever to support dominion, so removing exp gain is the easiest strategy.

I'm level 30. I'm pretty sure my dominion MMR is too high (hence getting the below 30s). Ranked dominion would solve that problem for me, but we know Riot's stance on that (see above).

MohawkBird3 votes

I doubt it's a resource thing anyways. Riot is a pretty successful company. They are probably just too lazy to do anything.

Erockandroll2 votes

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I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to fix the bot problem than disabling experience.

Like honestly, I got through level 10-29 by playing dominion because normals get very painful in the middle. I really do like dominion, but it would feel so shitty to go through an entire game and not receive any experience. I'm already butthurt that Champion Mastery can't be gained there, but thats a different subject.

Also slightly offtopic, what level is the account you're trying to play on? I basically never see bots anymore because I'm always matched with other level 30 players.

If you don't like disabling xp. Don't try to snowball/get snowballed too quickly on that game mode. I have had at least one instance where the game didn't last the minimum of 7 minutes required to get xp/ip rewards.

Right now, your best bet is to simply report the bots, and hope riot notices.

Tuss2 votes

I think I finished under that limit one time in a bot match. Boy did I feel silly.

Carpe Victoria4 votes

And if you play late at night there will be 0 other real people in your game. I really don't know why they haven't created an automated system to detect these accounts. It is insanely obvious and they never seem to get banned (if you look up the accounts you see they will have been playing for weeks/months...etc).

Bladerunner77774 votes

Wait a minute, those are BOTS?

And here I was feeling bad for stomping noobs with my friend.

Now that I think about it, whenever I play dominion with my friend (we get bored) I'm pretty sure we're the only humans there.

Doril4 votes

I literally had the same reaction you just did the first couple of times I played with bots -- I thought they were new players that just needed experience. It's only when someone pointed out that they have certain repetitive behaviors: the most obvious one is that they walk to a point, stall 2 seconds, then try to capture it (not sure why they can't capture it automatically).

RasCaelestis2 votes

Also, 90% of the bots I've seen share the naming convention of two random words. One's a four-letter word, the other's a three-letter word. I've got a few screenshots of games where I was the only 'human player' and it's really obvious to pick out the bots.

I'll post the screenshots later, but I'm on my phone right now and won't be able to get to my computer for a few hours.

Rebonack3 votes

Riot must have changed the matchmaking formula last patch, because before then I never saw a bot in Dominion on account of high MMR. Now I'm seeing them all the time. It is painful to queue for 15-25 minutes and then have a game ruined by bots. It's driving people out of the queue either by dodging or going to other maps, which is making the bot problem even worse.

A temporary solution would be to make it so level 30s don't get matched with sub-30s. That wouldn't solve things (lower level players would still have to deal with them) but most of Dominion's dedicated players are long-timers that hit 30 a long time ago.

The best solution would be Riot finally sucking it up and having players just start at level 30 from account creation. As with any illegal product, farmed accounts have demand. So long as that demand exists people are going to cheat to make money off it. If Riot destroyed the demand, then the bots would evaporate overnight.

3TWarrior3 votes

not exactly, the bot's biggest selling point is that they are offered for a fraction of the price of a paying to play with champs account. if you pay $25 for 2 6300 champs and the current total is like 400,000 ip, people pay $100 or so for a farmed account and fuel the hackers as compared to paying many hundred (if every champ were 6300 it would be almost $900 but if we take things down a notch, let's say it's safely $700 for every champ on a level 30 account with countless IP for anything offered for free including username changes, runes, ward skins, etc

Kürama2 votes

The bot issue has been present in ALL MAPS for over 1 year. They're less popular in other maps.

Full Brain3 votes

They could just ban the bots instead. Which they aren't actually doing now.

3TWarrior7 votes

for every 1 banned, 3 more appear XD

Full Brain3 votes

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for every 1 banned, 3 more appear XD

That isn't the issue. The issue is how are so many getting to level 30 and still not being banned when they have been reported likely hundreds of times.

revliledpembroke2 votes

Stupid hydra bots

Kürama3 votes

To every player experiencing bots in their matches (on any maps) report them for "feeding" & "third party software" at the end of game lobby.

Afterwards, submit a request listing the name(s) of the bot(s) and a link to the match they were in. Choose the "General Questions" category. Player Support will understand it's not a question, so no worries.

The Deckowner2 votes

i have seem bot in SR too, they are super dumb and always feed.

3TWarrior2 votes

lol, i've seen 2 and I think both were sona bots. The sona would literally just follow a randomly selected player, heal them when they needed it, they would die and the bot would stay in place

The Deckowner2 votes

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lol, i've seen 2 and I think both were sona bots. The sona would literally just follow a randomly selected player, heal them when they needed it, they would die and the bot would stay in place

i have seen some melee champ bot, only stand there and aa minions, completely ignores enemy laner and feeds.

Darkvaine2 votes

what game you guys talking about?

kappa

chide da jungler2 votes

I need those bot-lvld accounts ot smurf in bronze. dont wreck this for me

roflcopterssssss2 votes

played dominion on a lvl 11 account as my main is on EUW, was playing with 9 bots, not even fun anymore

Ärtorias2 votes

Plz no disable xp for dominion, i main dominions teemo and i actually think Rito should have a ranked for dominion because i deserve challenjour m8 i cant w8 for the ranked dominion, right now im bronze 5 because of the toxic community in summoners rift. gg ez m8'os

Kappa

blkKalameet2 votes

The automated system can't detect bots verry well. Considering the lack of players in that mode there are games where bots are paired in there own games at a decent rate. That pads there win/loss rate as the other bots are just as bad.

Report them outside of the client. Riot has to directly look into the account to see if its a bot.

Darkkor2 votes

I got 8 bots no too long ago. I was the only player on my team, and only one player on the other team. ;c

macromite2 votes

people play dominion?

Saianna2 votes

Bots farm IP aswell..

Doril3 votes

Yep, I agree, but disabling IP would screw over everyone at once, whereas disabling exp would screw over people that are legitimately leveling AND bots.

Unless we could convince Riot to implement a more comprehensive solution, I think disabling exp is the best "band aid" fix.

Saianna2 votes

Captcha every 2-3 games could do the trick too :)

GlockHammer2 votes

And in Twisted Treeline as well, as I'd bet my left nut 99% of the games being played there are farmer bots.

Ace Access 2 votes

I've said this before and I'll say this again.....

add a captcha in order to play dominion, is this too much to ask for ?

[slayer-jinx-unamused] [zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-nunu-bummed]

Master Pantz1 votes

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Rebonack1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Pantz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iUlyELjG,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2015-12-28T02:33:15.625+0000)

[9 bots]http://i.imgur.com/AvkoPwV.jpg[/img]

That image is terrifying.

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