Is it really that hard to see why Jhin has a high play rate?

Fawksea··9 votes·2,215 views

He's easy to farm with, serves the theme of an actual sniper, the reload system while it can take a bit of time to get used to, it feels SO satisfying when you got 3 items and move at the speed of light (i tend to take stormraiders when i played him cus fast af boi) and he synergises with supports so fucking well. this last point hits the nail of why he's so played, especially mage supports cus we know how lovely those are, zyra hits an e? snare, morgana hits a q? snare, brand hits an e? snare and brands full combo goes off. it's just like a caitlyn except jhin can snare em from far away and he gets movespeed off it. it's just perfect for good combos, heck bunnyfufu has a video of him with swain doing amazingly with the snare combo. if you combine cc with great damage from your support and then an execute crit, ofc he can be strong, but jesus christ i've played so many games where i got the enemy jhin to be 0/10 in 15 min. he's not hard at all to kill and shut down, and if he's behind you KNOW he's behind, not like Ryze this %%%% who can go 0/7 in lane and still do 700 damage q's. iunno to me i feel like maybe some tuning on the slow on his ult should be enough, and maybe a bit of a tweak to his 4th crit shot so people have to be lower, but jhin is just incredibly fun to play even if you're behind you can still help in the backline, even if just a lil.

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dunder kill12 votes

Man where were all the people when they destroyed Lucian?

Jhin "Jhin is fun to play and feels rewarding for doing so. He has a unique playstyle, Riot should leave him alone"

Lucian "SOOOOOOOOO sick of seeing this champ every game. When is Riot doing something about him? WHY IS RIOT BUFFING HIM WHEN HES AT A 47% WIN RATE??!?!?!?!!"

MissingKayo5 votes

Because Lucian has almost everything in his kit a typical ADC would need. He's a jack-of-all-trades rounded in everything. That's why his numbers can't be that high.

Sure, Jhin's a little bit overtuned right now. But he has clear strengths and weaknesses both, allowing the focus to be more sharply accented both ways.

dunder kill9 votes

Complete BS. He is a short ranged ADC that has a playstyle that feels both fun and rewarding. He has strengths but also the weakness of being low range amoung others.

This is the exact bias I'm talking about. Let me know the next time Lucian crits you for 1600 damage from 3000 range. "Jack of ALL trades" right? ALL trades? Right?

MissingKayo2 votes

Um, it's the entire reason he got gutted because he was in almost every single LCS game, and was a 100% safe pick in almost any matchup.

So of course he would've been crap.

Your fault if you get hit for 1600 damage from 3000 range.

An ADC doesn't need massive range. All they need is range. That massive range is one of Jhin's niches.

dunder kill11 votes

Um, it's the entire reason he got gutted because he was in almost every single LCS game, and was a 100% safe pick in almost any matchup.

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MissingKayo2 votes

Yes it's almost like a strong ADC with utility in an utility ADC meta would be picked.

Now, you were saying?

dunder kill9 votes

My lord this is hilarious

You said "the entire reason he got gutted was because he was in almost every single LCS game, and was a 100% safe pick in almost any matchup."

Right? Lets look at those two points

in almost every single LCS game

Jhin checks that box for sure

and was a 100% safe pick in almost any matchup.

Jhin again, CHECK. If things get too hairy, just walk away and throw a ton of DPS in from 3000 range

So you're saying yourself you want Jhin gutted then right? Because the reasons you gave for them destroying Lucian also apply to Jhin

Danjeng5 votes

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Fawksea1 votes

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These lovely ladies would like to have a chat with you. Ashe Sivir Kalista

i dont find none of em funny to play, ashe is just ult and hopefully you have time to put out damage, or somehow get to late game, sivir is, welp sivir? you can get a double spellshield with edge of night i guess?, kalista is more broken than fun, her passive is a good niche but can make the "fun" aspect turn into a "lmao this isnt balanced but its so funny to piss people off"

Eedat13 votes

Behold! The bias in action xD

MissingKayo3 votes

Behold! One of the infamous shitposters in action xD

Eedat6 votes

Behold! Some guy posting on a level 20 account for obvious reasons xD

Aptest2 votes

Also Jhin doesn't have 1000 dashes like Lucian had in some of his iterations.

serenity74 votes

Jhin is going to have a decent playrate regardless of whether or not he's op because he is fun to play. High playrate doesn't necessarily mean overpowered. Not saying that right now he's not strong if not a little overpowered.

Ahristocats3 votes

did you see a board thread complaining about jhin?

cause before lethality i never saw a single one

hmmmmmm i wonder why hmmmm fair hmmmmm not cancer to play against

serenity72 votes

Just saying, he isn't so strong that all of his high play rate comes from the fact that he's op. A lot of his playrate is just because people like playing him anyway.

Micbran2 votes

Jhin IS too strong. It's not hard to see. Yes, he's fun, but the other reason he has a massive play rate is because he is broken as fuck. Stronger a champion is, the more fun they are and the higher play rate they'll have.

Fawksea4 votes

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Jhin IS too strong. It's not hard to see. Yes, he's fun, but the other reason he has a massive play rate is because he is broken as fuck. Stronger a champion is, the more fun they are and the higher play rate they'll have.

honestly he's just stronger now cus lethality, before that he was still strong but he's getting nerfs already on his ult, sure rito can see that he's very fun and will try to nerf him slowly, it's not really jhin's fault for having a high playrate, every other adc is kinda crap besides cait draven and varus

Into The Aether2 votes

Lucian was less liked I think because he ends up playing like AD Ryze that trades a root for a dash.

His cooldowns get so low, and his passive fits in between it all so well that he machine guns out damage constantly.

He plays like an attack speed carry without building attack speed. He plays like an AD caster without being gated by cooldowns. And he was toward the top of the list of champions that could quickly shred armor with cleaver.

And he kinda takes turrets a bit too fast for the niche he's supposed to be in. His steroid worked fine on turrets, and he could proc it pretty frequently with or without an enemy wave.

I much prefer playing against a Jhin than Lucian.

The Scout Girl2 votes

boards LeeSin high playrate FUCKING KILL IT ! Riven getting picked and wins rito pls Yasuo bloated kit rito remove Caitlyn too safe and a bully remove nowwwww Quinn viable for a change agghhh MissFortune suuuuch oooopppppp

Jhin 55 playrate 52 winrate ? eh he fine no bias here

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

If he is a sniper, give him a 1 bullet reload mechanic

MissingKayo2 votes

You do realize his regular gun is a shotgun? And he has to go through a reload each time in his ultimate, hence the delay between each shot?

NodirjonSattarov1 votes

so why doesn't it behave like Graves' shotgun? If his main weapon is a shotgun give him substantially less range and damage unless he is <max range.

MissingKayo1 votes

Because it's not pellet-based and can fly further since it's individual bullets? Do you know how guns work?

50000000000000001 votes

It looks like a handgun, are you sure it's a shotgun?

MissingKayo2 votes

It's a shotgun with the barrels sawed off.

It connects to his sniper gun extension.

Derfel1 votes

He's popular because 1) his stats are overloaded and have been since release and 2) he takes about a quarter of the skill needed to play as the next easiest ADC.

I have no idea why people love bringing in nonsense like, oh his theme is just so cool that's why he has a 50% pick rate. Yeah stop kidding yourself, the most popular champions in this game have always been the most broken, the most forgiving, the most montage worthy pick one or two.

MissingKayo2 votes

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Sagan Forever1 votes

Yep the 42% win rate champion Ryze is so op plz nerf, unlike the adc Jhin who has been considered to be the statistical strongestest gets adc since he was released. Thresh is fun, Lucian is fun to play, LeeSin is fun to play, Yasuo is fun to play, and Vayne is fun to play. If any other of them get a 50% win rate or higher the boards burst into anger. If vayne gets to 50% win rate she becomes freeloo, same with lee sin. I mean Ryze is considered freeloo while being within the bottom 3 for win rates(for champions) for platinum players and below. Fun champions are usally kept weak because having one champion win 25% of all games is seen as a negative by the community... unless your jhin then it's just fine. Ps this is more about the double standards of the boards Pss the only champion I truly hate is Zyra , this plant can go to hell

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