HUGE Balancing problems with the game and issues with matchmaking quality and rank system

WormMaggot·10/31/2018, 4:18:07 AM·2 votes·1,081 views

Hello I wanted to open this board to hopefully get support and a response from the devs. about the game to fix these HUGE ISSUES with the games matchmaking system to balancing problems to the quality and justification of ban systems and ranked match quality. I know i am not alone on this issue and it has been a growing issue I feel that has been neglected forgotten about and has very little discussion about the quality and integrity of the matchmaking and reporting system. I've noticed especially this season that a lot of "unsportsmanlike behavior" has been tolerated, misguided, under-minded, and flat out ignored in not just my opinion but a lot of the player base. Also a lot of bugs glitches and flat our exploits that have came out the past 2 seasons that were under-minded and ignored and or was solved at such a slow pace it was exploited beyond repair. I have tons of video proof and or had tons of video, photo and record proof of a toxic majority player base that gets away with ruining others games by intentional feeding, unsportsmanlike behavior, negative giving up attitude, and flat out breaking the rules of the summoner code. I am making this post to discuss all these issues hopefully with a dev. as me and my friends and many others i have met in real life and in game who have the same issues and same complaints and thoughts as me. Myself and a few other friends have ideas and maybe solutions to some of these tilting and problematic issues with the games rank system, player base, unsportsmanlike behavior and or outright breaking the rules of our summoner code with little to no penalty it seems to them. As other games from other developers thrive with healthy player bases because of better systems and checks put in place to maintain a healthy and thriving gaming community. We have (especially myself) lists of problems with the games balance system, matchmaking system exc. as stated above. Here are just a few of the ongoing issues I've noticed with this game in the 3 to 4 years I've been playing this wonderful game i enjoy VERY MUCH but with these ongoing issues it is honestly deterring me my friends and many others from wanting to continue this GREAT game that has A LOT of potential that we feel is not being implemented and or at least noticed by the devs. to keep this game fun, entertaining, thriving, competitive and enjoyable for all.

  1. The number one biggest issue i seem to face and many seem to face as i said i have video proof of asking random players their standpoint on this and they agree and I'm willing to show a dev. the actually proof of this. Why is it i can be on a 10 win streak get into promos then I'm being paired with teammates who are on 10 even 20 lose streaks... when all the matches before promos I'm getting other players on win streaks? It makes us feel it is rigged to keep us in a low elo... its so unfair we can dominate all the way from 0 lp to 100 and then we get paired with the worst type of players who bring us back to 0 lp.

  2. The rune balancing we feel is SOOO far off than it was day 1 of this season... i understand nerfs and tweaks need to be made but my concern was before ANY buffs nerfs anything of the likes of that was implemented I and many other friends of mine felt the runes all were honestly good and op in their own way. The game started to show some uniqueness and new play styles on champs that desperately needed some new ways to play them and the constant buffing and nerfing seamed to break the whole system now its a constant battle to stay with the meta and follow guides which got rid of what made this season so appealing which was NEW PLAY STYLES FOR CHAMPS.

  3. Players i encounter i have logs of unsportsmanlike behavior calling me the N word with a hard R to the R word for "mentally challenged" to players usernames being derogatory about drugs and far far more.. I talked to customer support today about these issues and i understand its a hard battle with new players every day but I've had players who have had racist and drug influential names who play and have had the name for months sometimes years.... how do they get away with that and being rude to other players with no penalties given and they get away with it for HUNDREDS of matches... yet i and my friends receive bans for small things like telling them new items they can use to help us win the game or saying can we have TEAMWORK if u check my logs yes i have DESERVED a lot of my chat bans and i am truly sorry for my behavior and I'm trying to be more calm and take different approaches its just frustrating when i tell my team come on we can do this TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK u can check my history i say it almost EVERY MATCH before i even go off on a rude tangent which is wrong of me but I'm only human and its so frustrating when i try my best to be a team player and I'm told to kill myself, Screw you but with the f word, called the N word... just for trying to hold my team together... and it seems its ALWAYS in promos this happens to us... why?

  4. Intentional feeders is another HUGE issue... I've had DOZENS the past few months in my climb to silver it took me 2 years to get silver... i finally did it and I WANT TO GO FURTHER but its so hard when i do so well and get paired with THE WORST teams yet my enemy team dominates and they use great communication... I've been told to mute chat to solve this problem but LEAGUE IS A TEAM GAME! How can we be a team and have a team effort if i cant even use the chat WHICH IS THE ONLY KEY TO COMMUNICATION FOR US! if i mute it then what? All because 1 teammate is tilted and wants to give up we all have to suffer do to 1 person? Its beyond tilting when i cant just mute that one person to keep communication between those teammates that want to be a team and those that do not. if your not a team player YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO RANKED THEN! I have ideas to make the system better and more fair and friendly to players who want to communicate to work together to win.

  5. With such a massive player base why is it about 90% is in bronze and silver? shouldn't there be a variety of ranks with millions of players? another HUGE issue is to at higher elos like diamond and challenger PEOPLE LITERALLY TRADE WINS TO KEEP THE ELO THEY ARE IN BECAUSE THE PLAYER BASE IS SO SMALL IN HIGHER ELO!!! How is that fair to them to? when u want to keep winning yet you have teammates who are partied with the enemy team to trade wins? There are streamers and Youtube videos on these issues and a lot of these issues are shared on social media and videos by the pros are made on these issues yet nothing is done? We feel as a community that we are not heard and I and others feel you cater to the professional scene rather than the majority of the player base who is bronze and silver.

  6. Another huge issue i have is the fact if you fall behind a little bit or your team has bad synergy like no tanks and the enemy has 1 tank there is no comeback at all late game even with the high end scaling late game champs like Veigar and Nasus who get stacks that proc more damage. I find it ridiculous i can play Dota 2 a game i have absolutely NO KNOW HOW of how to play half the champs the items to build or even how to manage the match yet i can feed 20 kills and not get a single kill or assist and come back hard late game and still win when it looks like a straight loss. It feels so unbalanced to how the game should feel when i have great games that CHALLENGE ME to win its amazing a great feeling but when i have a majority of my games i get ahead by many kills towers inhibs objectives exc. and still lose i see a problem.... How is it i can feed my adc 12 kills by 12 minutes get to inhib by 15 get the inhib, drags, Barron and out of nowhere my damage stops to exist no matter if I'm 3 items ahead... THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN if a Jinx, Draven, KogMaw who ever is ahead in lane by 2 full items and out of nowhere the enemy who is 50 creeps behind 2 items behind out damages you how is that possible?

  7. Early game starts I've noticed to especially bot lane are so slow and not balanced at all... some combos we faced bot lane would DESTROY US from level 1 literally 3 hitting us but yet next game me and my buddy run the same exact things they did and face THE EXACT SAME champs we played the game prior legit 180 degrees facing a vice versa lane we lose? the damage for them one game exists at level 1 but for us it does not? it feels rigged like the damage is skewed game to game. one game ill destroy next i do no damage at all... To the same champs i face prior and destroyed with little to no effort because the damage was so great.

  8. Another part that is very skewed is i use to main JG my friend mains JG and my other friend is a JG main and we all agreed with each other the new patch to make junglers not be able to gank at lvl 2 anymore really messed up jungle progression throughout the game. Back then you use to clear the buff and go to lane with the people who leashed you and u can get ahead by a kill and go back farming now it feels you have to prioritize farm after EVERY GANK to maintain a gold advantage... When before your advantage was if your good at ganking and setups you got ahead quick and could farm out of leisure while now farming jg is a PRIORITY. Also the bruiser items are WAY TO EXPENSIVE If i gank level 2 its impossible now even with the kill after 1 gank its like you have to go farm your entire jg farm to just be at a normal pace with laners its like impossible to get ahead now in the jg. On top of that issue now with the lower exp to level your telling me i can clear all my farm on 1 side of my jg yet i cant get level 3? YOU HAVE TO GET SCUTTLE NOW FOR LEVEL 3 and its a constant fight now over the scuttle to get that level advantage on your enemy jg yet when you go for it its impossible depending on the matchup. if its a bruiser and your a tank you lose the fight 100% unless u get help from a laner yet again that arises another issue with that if your mid doesn't prioritize lane and get the push and you go for scuttle the communication is so bad with muting everyone because u cant mute specific players that the enemy mid goes and helps jg then you are doomed you die 100% guaranteed losing the exp gain and falling behind for a majority of the rest of the game. Then it feels like catch up farming like a madman to get level 3 to gank and since the enemy got scuttle he ganks before you and your behind the rest of the match now. It seems so unfair with that balancing that i can be an Amumu tank with aftershock bone plating and 2nd wind exc all these tanky runes to make u survive yet a Leesin can kill an Amumu same level with a quarter health when Amumu has full health? how does that? i have like 1000hp and he has like 300 and yet i lose? LEESIN IS BROKEN RIGHT NOW BEYOND BELIEF!!! i had a Leesin get ahead 2 kills and then he starts diving towers botlane 1v2 and kills both of them under tower walks away hits a few creeps and hes back to full hp after bot blew EVERY SPELL AND SS ON THEM they walk out unscaved after diving a 1v2 into enemy tower? 2 kills SHOULD NOT MAKE U THAT STRONG AT LEVEL 4 or 5 u can dive 1v2 tower and win... ALOT OF CHAMPS are like that now ESPECIALLY THE BRUISERS... That's an issue when enemies can just dive towers kill you at full hp and walk out untouched regardless of the damage you do to them. So now what? we cant even play safe under towers? We just have to lose towers in lanes if our JG would rather farm than gank and doesn't gank to get us the pressure we need?

These are just a portion of the list of problems we face daily in the struggle to climb and its so demoralizing that we cant climb do to these in my opinion and others serious issues we face on a daily basis. I am also going to open up another board message about all the bugs exploits and glitches we have saw and keep experiencing time and time again some are one time issues some are ongoing... i think the list of those is MUCH greater than the balancing alone and part of the balancing of the game has to do with fixing a lot of the exploits and bugs that are in the match from champion spells to game glitches to graphical glitches to every kind of error you can imagine. I appreciate if you take the time to read this and id LOVE and totally would respect and be grateful to be able to speak to a dev. to at least hear me out on these problems and more as I'm not going to state all the issues on this one post because honestly i can type more issues for hours. I would at least like to be heard and talked to about these ongoing issues ESPECIALLY THE GLITCHES AND BUGS that cost us matches and promos.. any feedback would be WONDERFUL and HIGHLY appreciate in all honesty it would be. I LOVE LEAGUE I LOVE THIS GAME! THIS GAME IS MY OUTLET TO MY PROBLEMS IN REAL LIFE! I have a bad day... I come home i play league to unfocused myself from reality for a little bit but its frustrating when this game that is honestly therapeutic to me sometimes and it seems more now than ever at the end of the season it is causing me more grief than it solves and its to a point i almost uninstalled today forever... I don't want to uninstall the game but honestly getting a response from a WONDERFUL and HELPFUL staff member at customer support made me have hope i can at least be heard and prevented me from giving up and uninstalling forever. All i ask is for us to be heard me and my friends LOVE your game we play EVERY DAY for years... almost every day we play together we want to continue that and have more fun but the game is so broken we feel that we would rather not play anymore after years of playing this amazing game that has SOOO MUCH POTENTIAL IT IS MIND BOGGLING! But in all honesty WE FEEL THAT POTENTIAL IS BEING WASTED AND ROTTING AWAY INSTEAD OF BEING HARNESSED! I've seen so many games go to time because of the lack of listening to what players want and I'm here to speak for us players. I care so much i spend hours typing this to hopefully and maybe not even be heard.. All i ask for is at least answers... Me and my friends may have fix's or at least ideas to solutions for MANY of these problems listed and many more if you are willing to take time to talk with us to make the game we love better. Thank you guys so much at Riot Games for giving us a great game that hopefully turns for the better and not worse and i look forward to hopefully speaking with a dev. about these issues and the other issues on my other board post I'm making after this one about bugs exploits and glitches in the game.

7 Comments

Tracy Chapman 10/31/2018, 4:29:38 AM1 votes

i actually just lost a game to a sion who went 1/16 using passive to take objectives...and we needed two just to prolong the stupidity of even being able to just intentionally feed...thats is FOR SURE an issue. actually prevented team fights and while we had two people trying to stop him, the enemy took objectives of their own. either nerf his passive or remove zz rot. im so mad at this because we all played fairly well on our team, and he would just ult down lane hit towers, die, and then take them. I am truly dumbfounded that this is even a thing, inting to win??? he should be punished in game with a longer death timer OR SOMETHING. i havent even played a match since then, because it tilted me so much that i was trying to win and i cant even stop one inting champ while the rest of his teams picks us off and takes other lane objectives. -_-item 3371

Madsin2510/31/2018, 4:43:25 AM1 votes

I just can't take you serious after I read #7.

I will go over point 1 with you atleast.

4 other players are not going to suffer the consequences of having to fight higher ranked players just because of someone being in their promos, it makes no sense if you actually sit back and think about it.

WormMaggot10/31/2018, 4:56:36 AM1 votes

Also another issue i had is why can we talk to customer support about these issues on a live chat with some of these issues being serious issues that should be discussed to devs. yet customer support cant contact devs. directly to tell them about player feedback on problems? Maybe this is just me and my experience but I've worked for many companies in my life and EVERY company i worked for has their customer support work intensively and closely with their upper management to address issues with customers and the providers product or service. Blizzard, Steam, Origin, And Dota have ways to contact devs. directly in a live chat 24/7 to get issues resolved and they answer very promptly and quickly and resolve problems as fast as possible yet this feature has not been offered on league why? To me it makes more sense if customer support can work with management to solve problems. Customer support staff sent me here to hopefully not even guaranteed to talk to a dev. but yet i can open a ticket on bugs and exploits why if they cant even do anything about the issues as they told me they have no access to talk to devs. about these issues. i talked to 3 devs. today and 2 of them agreed with the majority of my statements i made on this post. Its just odd maybe that is a small step to fix some issues?

EliteSquirrel2710/31/2018, 5:14:51 AM1 votes

I agree with all the statements made in this post I recently had a game where my ADC and support feed and got an Ashe top lane because shes been dying to play her top. I try as a jungle try to help, but to no avail she feeds and loses lane; for my bot lane I come down there at least 4 times and get 2 kills and a fine amount of assist, but still lose lane because the ADC bot got a role he did not deserve. The support however got auto filled (i'm going to be honest I do not understand how the auto fill system works, I would like for Riot to make this more clear) he wanted to play ADC, but the current ADC responded very rude. When the game got longer and longer I noticed that the ACD top and bot were starting to tilt, we as a team were winning in lanes then just started to go down hill. One thing i noticed late game when the inhibitor fell the super minions don't have a really good pathing, the minions would lock onto the turret then suddenly stop? This has boggled my mind since the last season because this is when I started to notice this. So back to what I was saying the ADC's were tilted beyond belief. I try and tell them that just wait to late game and sit under tower and avoid fights but they let the tilt get to them and just flat out feed. I'm not sure how the reporting system works for chat bans, but when people just say things like the n-word they should be looked over . I main Camille jg and I notice this in some of my games when you get a troll on you're team, He/She would go into my jungle and just flat out steal my farm. What I don't understand is that they can take my farm and still get the same amount of gold from that camp as I do. I feel as a jg main my team in other lanes should not get the same amount of gold, but half of the amount to try and discourage this behavior. Now back to Camille Camille I notice that when you try and Grapple away when the enemy is on you, she does the animation of going over the wall, but is then teleported back over the wall and stuns the enemy. Also when you try and go another direction you suddenly go towards the enemy and feed. If i feel like I did not mention anything I will say it on my response.