When is Graves gonna get some love?

The Spoony Bard·11/8/2014, 1:41:35 PM·1 votes·890 views

I guess this whole cigar controversy ignited a spark of pathos I never had for poor ol' Graves Malcom in the Middle. I used to loathe Graves; From release to just yesterday I felt like he was the only champ purchase I've ever regretted. I've rolled into him in ARAM a few times and to be fair, I actually won a lot of those games with him, but then I decided to actually give him a try on the Rift, and, well, I think he might actually be tailor-made for me and me alone. I'm not the biggest AD Caster fan - the only one I will truly love with all of my heart is MonkeyKing Murderous George(thanks for the new splash btw, it's perfect), but Graves has definitely found a home in my repertoire after today. He's powerful as a duelist, but is punishing when you make mistakes(and I need that in a champion).

That said, I can realize he's not in the greatest spot as-is. His mana costs are too high, and his ratios are great but there's no way to justify keeping those the same AND allowing him to be able to afford some laning power with reduced skill costs. I honestly believe that with the shift in the meta, he might be able to find a good standing ground so long as he gets some touch-up on his skills.

Anybody in Red got an answer for me? Anybody else have input on Graves?

6 Comments

AloneInTheCrowd11/8/2014, 3:27:06 PM1 votes

Garen demacia Garen

Toothless Lion11/8/2014, 3:34:10 PM1 votes

He got a decent buff recently.

Imo his passive seems dumb without him having scaling MR.

Marthian11/8/2014, 4:24:58 PM1 votes

He has an average 50% win rate.

Sailor Mint11/8/2014, 4:29:51 PM1 votes

He's in a good spot atm.

Meep Man11/8/2014, 5:14:10 PM1 votes

His Q costs too much. Thats the only thing I see with him. 100 mana is too much at Level 5 is too much for it only dealing damage and applying no crowd control. Other than that, Graves is really strong right now. I actually find him to be a good top lane too.

MattAkhavan11/8/2014, 7:25:12 PM1 votes

Graves actually got his first buff since release 2 patches ago i think. I think he's in a pretty good spot and is super fun to play. Nothing has really changed about him

Pros

  • High damage
  • Smoke screen is probably one of the most useful utility tools in the game, THIS THING IS AMAZING
  • Sick attack speed steroid and dash ( pretty low cd especially while auto)
  • Innate tankiness
  • Tons of AOE damage

Cons

  • Low attack range
  • If shut down, you cant burst
  • mana probelms
  • if you dodge his skill shots he does very little damage

Again, this guy has gotten nothing but nerfs since his release. he only got 1 buff and it was a few patches ago.