Can anybody who's diamond + and actually plays draven... or atleast understands his concept. "Learn" me why riot wants dravens passive is almost useless... but they buff his Q
UPDATE: If you don't play draven, don't comment like you know anything about him. It's gonna waste my time and yours. lol
King of Demons2 votesIt's not useless.
It means you snowball harder than any other champion because you get more gold from kills.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesand here's a guy who doesn't play draven.
King of Demons2 votesand here's a guy who doesn't play draven.
You're telling me I am not correct? That he gets more money from kills? Because that's exactly what his passive does. You have 150 stacks, get one kill and suddenly that one kill was worth 650 gold. Do you even know how massive that is? Getting gold for 2 kills from one?
Magic Wizard Joe1 voteslmao. let me tell you right now. you can have 3 kills on draven. and your passive can potentially not even give you 350 gold total lmao.
Dynikus6 votesYou can also not get a single dragon with shyvana and get next to no bonus defensive stats. You can also fail to last hit with veigar and barely get any stacks. You can miss every mark and never get a stack on kindred. So I'm not really sure what your point is. If you don't use a passive to its potential, obviously it won't be very useful. There are champions with much worse passives than that.
Magic Wizard Joe2 votesexcept were talking dravens actual passive. Not a bonus passive on another skill...
Dynikus1 votesNone of those are bonus passives on another skill.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesand you're totally right I'm sorry I even said that, But I still missed your point.
Dynikus1 votesbasically there are a lot of passives that could be seen as useless if you don't use them to their full potential. Catch enough axes and do well with draven, and his passive is great. Miss axes, miss cs, die constantly, and don't get many kills, and his passive is borderline worthless. It's definitely a feast or famine kind of passive, but it can definitely help snowball faster.
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Proxy3452 votesHis release passive bleed was OP though lol you could two shot anyone with a Q at level one back then lol
dominusx2 votesgood fkn times!!!!
Magic Wizard Joe2 votesIt was so lit though lmao. cmon. cmon haha
dominusx2 votesUseless? if you get a kill and fbtower you get litterally 2k gold. do you know what 2k extra gold means for an adc?
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesAND HERE'S ANOTHER GUY WHO DOESN'T PLAY DRAVEN
dominusx2 votesbet my ass i'm a better draven than you will ever become.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votes[deleted]
dominusx1 voteslast guy i downvoted was APEX from NA 3days ago. sorry lad.
ZephyrDrake2 votesyeah let's make him more feast or famine instead of actually make him a decent ADC
Magic Wizard Joe2 votesTHANK YOU!!!
Meep Man2 votesDraven's Passive is underwhelming to put more power in the rest of his kit. Plus, his passive is a kind of passive you don't buff because he is underpowered. A gold income passive can really screw with how mandatory someone is, as seen with GP. It's better to buff something that won't cause problems when not at the EXACT RIGHT amount.
Basically, it's so we don't have the second coming of pre-nerfs GP in Marksman form.
Lazarevic13371 votesHmmm... Lets talk about Lissandra and Nunu passives...
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesyou don't play draven.
Draaaaaavéééééén1 votesI Really love his passive, if you feel it's useless, i don't.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesYou play draven but you're in bronze 2. I don't even expect you to understand why his passive is so garbage right now.
Requiemsfire1 votesYeah, the most snowbally passive is useless on a lane bully ADC lel
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesyou don't play draven.
Jbels1 votesI don't have to play Draven to know that for certain ADCs his early game is oppressive and that as soon as he gets his first kill his passive pretty much makes it so he's won the lane, and considering this meta, the game as well. Stop pretending you have some kind of hidden deep knowledge that nobody else does that makes saying Draven's passive is useless true.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesPLAY.... DRAVEN.... THEN YOU'LL LEARN......
Rock MD1 votesI used to play him all the time.
It's really easy to get stacks and the passive mechanic both paints a target on Draven's back and helps him snowball. This is especially true because you can normally get about ~100 stacks in 5 minutes. That's 250 extra gold if you get a kill at 5 minutes.
Do you know how huge it is to come back to lane with 550 gold on your opponent? That's 10 AD and 4 pots, if you're being conservative. It's also makes you go from coming back to lane with a Pickaxe to showing up with a BF Sword.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesIt's like no one understands. I'm not sure what elo you play in. But in plat+ people aren't dumb enough to sit there and just let draven stack. And he's definately not a lane bully until he reaches at least level 3. But once you die without getting a kill.. you lose half the stacks. If you die twice. You're so far behind you're not catching up unless you have 4 or 5 ganks. All you people swearing he's OP and hsi passive is good need to do your homework. Just about every draven player who's good at the game hates his passive. It's good if you get a kill every 2 or 3 minutes. But if that's not happening it's trash. His Q doesn't need to be buffed. His Q is fine. It's his shitty passive. That's why they are buffing him to begin with. It's not strong enough.
Rock MD1 votesIt's like no one understands. I'm not sure what elo you play in. But in plat+ people aren't dumb enough to sit there and just let draven stack. And he's definately not a lane bully until he reaches at least level 3. But once you die without getting a kill.. you lose half the stacks. If you die twice. You're so far behind you're not catching up unless you have 4 or 5 ganks. All you people swearing he's OP and hsi passive is good need to do your homework. Just about every draven player who's good at the game hates his passive. It's good if you get a kill every 2 or 3 minutes. But if that's not happening it's trash. His Q doesn't need to be buffed. His Q is fine. It's his shitty passive. That's why they are buffing him to begin with. It's not strong enough.
Diamond 3. Watched Tyler1 quite a few times to pick up some tips and tricks so I'm fairly knowledgeable on Draven's mechanics. I'm sorry if being two tiers above you makes me trash at the game.
I play with Draven players all the time and quite a few tell me they love it because they're gambling men. Perhaps the issue is you don't know when to back off. It would explain why you have less than a 2 KDA on him.
Also, stop getting Youmuu's and start going BT -> PD. It'll save you some headache in the long run because with that build unless you fuck up you just can't die.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votesDid I insult you did I say anything about your rank? Did I say you were trash? Or did I say you didn't understand. I didn't even look at your rank. So this --> ". I'm sorry if being two tiers above you makes me trash at the game." is pussy ass shit I'm just saying. Like where did it come from.
Anyways respectfully you don't watch enough tyler1 then because he always takes youmuu's first and his kd be just as shit as mine half the time. Only difference be his rank.
Rock MD1 votesDid I insult you did I say anything about your rank? Did I say you were trash? Or did I say you didn't understand. I didn't even look at your rank. So this --> ". I'm sorry if being two tiers above you makes me trash at the game." is pussy ass shit I'm just saying. Like where did it come from.
Anyways respectfully you don't watch enough tyler1 then because he always takes youmuu's first and his kd be just as shit as mine half the time. Only difference be his rank.
His KDA is loaded onto his kills. You don't get kills, so you don't reap the benefit of his passive.
Metas change. Youmuu's is trash now unless you're going full pen build, and you're not.
You don't understand the game so you don't understand how useful the passive is.
Magic Wizard Joe1 votes"His KDA is loaded onto his kills. You don't get kills, so you don't reap the benefit of his passive." Bitch where?
"Metas change. Youmuu's is trash now unless you're going full pen build, and you're not." You have no idea what I build. If you knew anything you were talking about. The build I normally take is the KR build for draven right now at a 75% win ratio.
"You don't understand the game so you don't understand how useful the passive is." -The fact that I've been diamond twice at Diamond V 0 LP.... You're diamond yourself. I guess we both don't know shiit about the game.
Also we have two different play styles. I push all day long with draven. That's my playstyle. And if you watched tyler1 you'd know that's his too. Nothing you say makes any sense, it's all your biased opinions/thoughts. Lol
Rock MD1 votes"His KDA is loaded onto his kills. You don't get kills, so you don't reap the benefit of his passive." Bitch where?
"Metas change. Youmuu's is trash now unless you're going full pen build, and you're not." You have no idea what I build. If you knew anything you were talking about. The build I normally take is the KR build for draven right now at a 75% win ratio.
"You don't understand the game so you don't understand how useful the passive is." -The fact that I've been diamond twice at Diamond V 0 LP.... You're diamond yourself. I guess we both don't know shiit about the game.
Also we have two different play styles. I push all day long with draven. That's my playstyle. And if you watched tyler1 you'd know that's his too. Nothing you say makes any sense, it's all your biased opinions/thoughts. Lol
I look at your games and you have significantly less kills and more assists, making Draven's passive seem less usable. Look at any KR Draven's KDA and you will see a higher number of kills than deaths.
This is the one case in the game where assists don't matter, because getting kills is crucial to playing Draven. Look at KR's champion enthusiasts and they all average kills over deaths with a difference of at least 1, in the worst cases. You're looking at -0.7 difference in your kills vs. deaths. Again, I told you that you don't know how to back off properly and it appears you die too much because of that, rendering Draven's passive unusable.
I won't even comment on the build because I know where your issues lie. You figure out your overaggression and the passive will seem a lot stronger.
Tyler I1 votes600k + in draven 401# best draven world. Now u cant tell me that i dont play him. his PASSIVE is actually what makes him so good becouse u can have full build at 23~ minute if u use it to the full potential. I normally get 150 stacks around 5:20 so if i kill their adc or supp its bassicly a double kill. Dont try to counter this becouse u will just get more downvotes