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3 inhibs down is impossible to win

Magic Wizard Joe·11/27/2016, 2:06:31 PM·11 votes·5,063 views

"...whenever I see a team lose their 3 inhibs, it seems IMPOSSIBLE to win. Scratch that. It IS IMPOSSIBLE to win. How it tends to go: They push like crazy and get all 3 inhibs, sometimes just plain backdoor. Your team turtles like a boss and defends the nexus keeping up the towers. One person will stay back and defend. Your team wins the next team fight 2 for 4. Your team wins the next team fight 1 for 4. Your team wins the next team fight. Inhibs respawn and super minions are finally gone. Their team has made zero attempt to push after they nailed the inhibs. But, all 3 lanes are still SUPER pushed. Even pushing the minions back to where the first tower was in all 3 lanes. Baron spawns and the teams skirmish around Baron with no real team fight. Over the next 5 minutes, minions are back at the inhibs destroying them all alone. Team needs to retreat to protect inhibs, enemy team gets free Baron. Now they rush your base with Baron buff and storm the 3 inhibs. Enemy team leaves to go heal. Your team is left dealing with a million super minions. Not only do super minions spawn, but if all 3 are down, even MORE spawn than as if you counted one down 3 times. Enemy team comes back with their army of super minions then proceeds to blow the nexus down with a sneeze.

My point is: Remember those few CRAZY comeback games way back when? They can't happen anymore. I've had the team turtle like crazy and proceed ace enemy team 3 times, and it means NOTHING. You can't push unless you have already gotten their inhib tower down. The minions are destroying towers and champions, and they only reward 30 gold. How are you supposed to win at this point? It's not a PvP game when that mark is hit, just see how long you can play this Hero Defense until 70 minutes. The enemy team doesn't have to lift a finger to even attempt to push."

This problem is back... No?

53 Comments

Packun Flower11/27/2016, 2:18:47 PM11 votes

Part of the powerful minion push has to do with the fact that the team that is currently winning has stronger minions regardless of inhibs or not.

Its such a stupid idea. I dunno who at Riot thought that was a good idea. Its in the patch notes somewhere. Basically if your team is winning your minions will be slightly stronger and push harder then the losing teams.

Its so fucking dumb dude.

RdePZ6L3ru11/27/2016, 2:21:17 PM6 votes

Agreed, I kinda miss the days back when those ridiculous comebacks were actually possible. One of the things I might strongly advise is a bonus if you ace the enemy team with any inhibitor down- something like -10% damage from enemy minions, +10% damage dealt to enemy minions per inhibitor down when you get the ace... Actually come to think about it this would be a really cool mechanic to be implemented- might actually see some use in LCS!!!

Faie11/27/2016, 3:53:56 PM5 votes

But that is the entire point of the inhibitor mechanic, to actually end games. The reason that two super minions spawn per wave only when three inhibs are down is to make sure that team wins the game.

Three inhibs down is the closest you can actually get to losing, while having your nexus intact. Otherwise imagine that a well played Ziggs and a good team comp will be able to hold all the super minions, and it would be back to the season 3 stall meta where games lasted >50 minutes, through inhibs.

GhaelWinds11/27/2016, 6:47:57 PM3 votes

Ima tell you a story, of the ranked 4v5. We had a vayne thst got mad because she tried to fight the bot lane and died while I (her support) lived. So she sat in the fountain all game. The enemies took our 3 inhibitors we turtled and counter engaged fights winning without losing a single person most time. 5 fights like that later we got one Inhibitor. 2 more fights like thst and we won the game. Not impossible, if I can do it in a 4v5 you can do it in a 5v5. Keep trying summoners!

iLLp11/27/2016, 2:58:51 PM3 votes

no shit, if you lose 3 inhibs that means you shouldn't win.

whats next? its to hard to defend your nexus when the nexus turrets are gone?

ZephyrDrake11/27/2016, 3:02:14 PM3 votes

i fail to see the point of this thread... any team that is actually smart... wait no... any team that has 1/8th of a functioning brain and has 3 of your inhib downs they will either push for the victory and/or get baron/elder dragon so that then they can push for the win. The game has to actually end!

Vesemir11/27/2016, 3:52:21 PM3 votes

Because Turrets are a complete garbage. They deal no damage and are superweak. You lose a turret if the jungler and lets say top laner decides to push. That turret will be gone before you can come back to your lane.

RexSaur11/27/2016, 4:10:34 PM2 votes

The point of getting inhibs is to end the games, if triple inhib wasant strong then it would just be free farm for the other team as it shoves hard into their bases.

If you lose 3 inhibs it probably means you lost the game, as it should be.

Maximum Morde11/27/2016, 2:51:21 PM2 votes

Build zzrot to keep lane pushed

Death and Doom11/27/2016, 4:39:22 PM2 votes

sorry, but I am strongly for 3 inhibitors being what they are right now. inhibitors and baron buff are the only way to end a game. If my team is up by 5k gold, but yours is a late game comp, you could just sit under nexus turrets and stall the game out. We cant dive you and you just farm gold till you win. Thats why Riot put in inhibs. We CAN dive you under 1 inhib tower, especially since it is a choke point and we can get baron. then if we get 3 inhibs we can win by just sieging with the minions.

Maybe you liked making insane comebacks, but for the health of the game inhibs should stay the way they are.

TeCoolMage11/27/2016, 6:59:47 PM2 votes

changes:

  1. 1 inhib, 2 inhib, 3 inhib all have the same benefit, the inherent advantage of having more than 1 lane being pressured is already strong enough (in past seasons snowball wasn't strong and turtling was a huge problem, now turtling isn't strong and snowballing is a huge problem). No more extra super minions on 3 inhibs as playing right already lets you force team fights against a behind enemy.

  2. Not too sure about this one; respawning an inhibitor converts super minions into normal minions. So being able to defend enough doesn't punish you.

MuffledGarbage11/27/2016, 4:51:31 PM1 votes

well if your team lets the enemy team take 3 inhibs even if that's game your team DID lose a teamfight/fight/got splitpushed too hard from feeding teammate/ enemy can just melt towers kinda easy and stuff

The Space Cowboy11/27/2016, 5:02:47 PM1 votes

It's really hard, however give me a farmed up Jinx and any tank with some balls and we will take their base without minions after a late game ace. You have a whole minute to do this. You just better have gotten their outer turrets before losing all of your inhibitors.

bad arcade kitty11/27/2016, 3:52:45 PM1 votes

zzrot can help at least vs 2 inhibs

i recently won a game where i was a soraka and afked for ~45 minutes or so (yeah, it was 1 hour long game, 1 hour and 2 minutes or something) and then built zzrot and banner of command to help vs two inhibs being down. funnily lvl 2 at 45th+ minute soraka ended 2/2/14 and lvl 17, i guess one or two kills were with that new aoe heal + damage item

but then, it was just a normal draft

Quepha11/28/2016, 8:16:38 AM1 votes

It's not impossible.

Sukishoo11/27/2016, 11:31:04 PM1 votes

I just won a game where all 3 of my inhibs were down... lolz

Catastrop11/28/2016, 12:00:02 AM1 votes

As it should be. The enemy team got all your inhibs, why you think you should have an easier time is just baffling.

Blue Collar Bear11/27/2016, 3:58:07 PM1 votes

I've won a situation like that once. They had one inhibitor down and no nexus turrets. We had all three inhibs down. I backdoored as Tahm Kench, since they had no nexus turrets.

Magic Wizard Joe11/28/2016, 8:16:10 AM1 votes

Trying to let this post die. People continuously post comments that clearly isn't encouraged or welcomed. I do not care if you think it's suppose to be that way. Literally didn't ask that at all. I asked if it was a problem based on the quote. People need to stop being so negative