Caitlyn has surpassed Tristana as the worst ADC (excluding Kalista) and is badly in need of buffs...

Colton147··1 votes·1,090 views

As the title says...

Caitlyn is currently sitting at a 46%-47% win rate: http://na.op.gg/champion/caitlyn/statistics/adc http://champion.gg/champion/Caitlyn/ADC

As someone who tends to play Caitlyn (and Jinx) as their main ADC, it is sad to see that the crit changes ended up killing off Caitlyn and rendering her an auto-loss troll pick like Kalista.

Buffs:

Patch 7.11 reverted; item 3085 now grant headshot stacks on secondary targets

Range increased from 650 to 675

Q: Piltover Peacemaker

Damage increased from 30/70/110/150/190 to 70/110/150/190/230

W: Yordle Snap Trap

Trap duration increased from 30/35/40/45/50 to 50 seconds all ranks

Maximum traps increased from 3/3/4/4/5 to 5 all ranks

5 Comments

Hencho1012 votes

Why not just buff Vayne! item 3085 now procs Vayne's W

Q: Tumble

Cooldown decreased from 6/5/4/3/2 to 2 seconds at all ranks

Bonus physical damage increased from 50/55/60/65/70% AD to 80/85/90/95/100%

E: Condemn

Stun duration increased from 1.5 seconds at all ranks to 3 seconds at all ranks

Real talk though:

The problem is trying to GET Caitlyn or any other long range ADC balanced. As those ADCs can just sit in the back line and do damage without people being able to get onto them, vs someone like Vayne or needs to be much closer. If you give a back line ADC as much or a little bit less damage than the close range ADCs, why would you EVER pick a close line ADC if the long range ADCs can do that damage! Yes champs fall in and out of meta all year, I was fucked last ADC meta because Lucian, Vayne and Sivir are my main ADCs. Now this ADC meta is great for me! I can play Lucian again and i'm mopping the floor with him! Just because a champ that use to be doing well all of a sudden isn't, doesn't mean that champ should be buffed, and just because a champ is all of a sudden doing really good, doesn't mean they should be nerfed. :)

Kai Guy2 votes
kaironen1 votes

Caitlyn doesn't need a buff, adcs/crit items need buffs. Currently on adcs, it takes around 900 more gold to be able to get the 3 item power spike, which is weaker now. You can go stormrazor but you basically weaken your mid game. Even then, it is around a 600 gold increase for the 3 items (not counting stormrazor cost). Zeal item components and ie components are pretty bad too. Zeal used to be fine with the dagger and brawler glove, but brawlers costs 200 more with 0 change in what it gives you. Zeal items also got a 5% crit reduction and it costs 100 more gold. You compare this to blade components and other non-crit item and you can see why crit is overall too weak right now.

Then you add in the fact fleetfootwork got gutted to the point where I would argue it is weak and the fact that hp regen got gutted, crit adcs are looking weak. Also, sivir/vayne were still pretty good in last meta. Sivir is a good counter to Caitlyn she was also an overall decent champions. She is currently one of the few crit adcs, besides vayne, that can do well this meta (essence reaver is op). Vayne was decent last meta too. Lucian Imo was good but most people saw him as bad so i'm not sure about him, I think he was around tier 2 though, under kaisa/cait and stuff. Tbh, adcs were overall balanced last patch with a few exceptions.

Yuvn Ti2 votes

While I agree that she is weak, buffing EVERY ability is never the answer dude.

Kai Guy1 votes

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