The problem with off-meta picks and Singed Support:

00 Great Dane··5 votes·1,286 views

There is none...

...in Normals.

When you play Ranked, you are competing for chance to get to Challenger, get noticed for your decision making, mechanics, CHAMPION CHOICES AND MASTERY and ultimately make it to 'the show', aka LCS. There is NO other reason to play Ranked other than taking the game seriously enough to want to be a professional. Normal play and Custom games are where you can "play for fun" and "play casually". The fact that you are not aiding your teammates in winning the game is negative behaviour. Your champion select picks should be based off 3 things in Ranked:

  1. The bans that came through.
  2. The enemy team's selection.
  3. Your team's composition.

If you refuse to pick your champion according to these guidelines in Ranked then you should be removed from the Ranked ladder and forced to play Normals, where you belong. The counter argument I anticipate here is "No, you should be playing your best champion!" -- No. Sorry. You should not be playing Ranked if you are not comfortable enough on a range of champions to meet these three requirements above.

Please, play Singed Support, but do it in Normals or when it fits for the 3 above mentioned requirements.

Props to Riot for addressing this issue. I do not think banning the player is the right course of action, however, Ranked restriction definitely is.

Thank you.

P.S. I will consider the amount of downvotes as trolls. Riot, here's an easy way to find targets to manually audit. ;)

19 Comments

dakota saturn4 votes

So by your logic, all one trick players should be banned immediately. Sounds fair.

00 Great Dane1 votes

No. There are definitely some champions (mostly those with hard cc) that do well in MOST situations. Annie for example, you can find a place for her in nearly any team comp and vs a wide range of enemy picks.

On the other side of that though, it would make for a much healthier and dynamic game if one-tricks were removed from Ranked. They do essentially force your team to pick around them, which is inherently selfish. Perhaps it's time to introduce # of Mastered Champions ranked requirements vs # of champions and level 30?

Resonance x LFT4 votes

What the fuck? Am I reading this correctly? You actually want to get rid of all the one trick players? Most one trick players climb to heights you'll never get to. Reason being, if you can master one champion well enough, you can at least make it into master tier. Not my words, but the words of several other popular streamers when giving advice.

dakota saturn4 votes

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What the fuck? Am I reading this correctly? You actually want to get rid of all the one trick players? Most one trick players climb to heights you'll never get to. Reason being, if you can master one champion well enough, you can at least make it into master tier. Not my words, but the words of several other popular streamers when giving advice.

He's either trolling or retarded. Downvote and move on.

khorney1 votes

it would be mroe healthy for dynamic que if it made people to supp vices letting people refuse to supp becuase they dont want to becuase its boring so on and so forth or therre excusae is im not good at it dude stfu supp is the easist thing to do

Resonance x LFT3 votes

In the words of Riot: "You cannot be punished for trying an unusual strategy while trying to win."

00 Great Dane1 votes

I never said anywhere you should not be able to. Feel free to do it, in normals or when it fits the scenario and your teammates are on board.

Dasdi963 votes

I would rather have a teammate pick a champion that gets countered by the enemy but they are comfortable with than to pick a champion that counters the enemy but have no experience whatsoever.

00 Great Dane1 votes

This should never be a scenario or issue in Ranked play. As I said, you should not be playing Ranked if you are not comfortable enough on a range of champions.

Resonance x LFT2 votes

You should not be playing the game if you're trying to say play meta picks, or get banned. What about one trick Urgot players? Should Jared get banned for playing Annie top, even though it's not meta?

Best Kog NA2 votes

Just because it's normals doesn't mean you get no punishment for purposely loosing the game. Off meta =/= Not viable. Like no matter how hard you play AP Garen, you're going to get reported most of the time.

00 Great Dane1 votes

This is inherently a problem with the game design as Riot has not limited items to certain classes of champions. It's easily fixed if they simply do what they did to Cass w/boots and remove AP items from being purchased by champions that have 0 AP scaling.

Best Kog NA2 votes

But then people would whine about how they can't build Ludens on Garen. I mean in concept it's passive would KINDA work on garen. Emphasis on KINDA. It's sketchy as fuck but it's still a build.

Kaldorain1 votes

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This is inherently a problem with the game design as Riot has not limited items to certain classes of champions. It's easily fixed if they simply do what they did to Cass w/boots and remove AP items from being purchased by champions that have 0 AP scaling.

I suggest you go play Smite. A game that I left because of that reason. While it may not be viable, these random builds for me are the only fun I get out of this game when I'm being held captive by 3-4 man trolls.

khorney1 votes

how is singed supp trolling ? ive had singed supp before and it was pretty good cause of the slow but hey what eves. i remeber when i was runnign naut supp like in season 4 people called me troll but ohh man all of a sudden it isnt. i do j4 supp becuase it works out pretty well

Fairyfleur1 votes

So I guess I can't play Taliyah ?

SwordOfWar1 votes

You think the only reason to play ranked is to go pro? You are delusional.

00 Great Dane1 votes

Do any of you watch pro-play?

That's what ranked is meant to emulate and train you for. You should be prepared to beat the opposing team with the blatant strategies in place during champ select, which you can see in pro play, can make or break a game.

Why is this such a hard concept for this community to grasp?

If you want to play Beer-League of Legends, do it in Normals or Custom Games.

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