[RANT] not feeding super easy

Candoodle·Dec 30, 2016·6 votes·681 views

dont mind me just here to vent feel free to downvote

I don't mind if you losing lane. It happens maybe jungler comes gets good gank puts you back and you suddenly 0 3 again no biggie

what grinds my gears is when the 0 3 player continues to go for all ins and hard push and suddenly they have 10 deaths

like how stupid are you? this is so basic. You know you cant win STOP TRYING if you have double digit deaths in a game that's less than 50 min long learn to get carried you feeding stop it.

/RANT

23 Comments

MarshbouyDec 30, 20163 votes

this. Don't continue to go super aggro against a draven if you are both 0/3.

vOmvbrawfUDec 30, 20163 votes

This is seriously my biggest issue in the game. It's just trolling. If you continue to go all in against the enemy that you fed, you're a troll. Or a business major and literally just too stupid to know what will happen.

SNSD SunnnyDec 30, 20161 votes

if you're 0/3 you're going to get dove under turret nonstop and nothing you can do about it

S0kaXDec 30, 20164 votes

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what grinds my gears is when the 0 3 player continues to go for all ins and hard push

SNSD SunnnyDec 30, 20161 votes

which is better, waiting for minions to get to your turret and then get dove and get 0 minions? or get all the minions you still can.

if you're on a death spree, each additional death barely gives the opponent any more gold.

league is about map pressure, pushing puts map pressure and freezing doesn't. any laner worth their salt is still going to try to put pressure even when behind just because if you freeze, you're going to get dove when the minion stacks up to your turret, or the enemy laner is going to roam to another lane and go dump on that lane too.

CandoodleDec 30, 20162 votes

if you're on a death spree, each additional death barely gives the opponent any more gold.

so your solution to feeding is to hard feed more until you are just as useless to the other team as you are your own?

im sorry but if you cant survive a dive at full health when being 0 3 you are bad either you are building incorrectly (still going for that full dmg build you go every game regardless of circumstance) or you just straight up suck

when i see shit like "league is about map pressure" yeah no shit but all i see is a singed dying over and over again while no pressure is applied

if you 0 3 map pressure is no longer an option for you sit back and try not to feed more so your team has a chance to carry your boosted bonobo ass

SNSD SunnnyDec 30, 20161 votes

you say its super easy to play from behind when its not at all

with the current state of junglers, even going 0/1 warrants a turret dive with waves at your turret since a 1 for 1 trade is still really bad for you.

league is all about map pressure, even when im behind i still have to put as much pressure as possible so my lane opponent doesn't go roam and fuck up other lanes.

of course you're probably like silver or something from the way you say its "super" easy not to feed

CandoodleDec 30, 20162 votes

another gold player shitting on silver like there is a difference keep crying "map pressure" all you want as an excuse for your feed

when you are behind a 1 for 1 trade under tower always worth, but i spose you think it's better to die in the middle of your lane and go 1 for 0?

because then you can spam ping the other to towers even though your team is not in a position to capitilze and you can type in chat about your team "doesnt pressure"

vOmvbrawfUDec 30, 20162 votes

league is about map pressure, pushing puts map pressure

Pushing the wave to the enemy tower and getting killed literally puts 0 map pressure on the enemy team. In fact, it only puts map pressure on your team because now your lane opponent is going to push and damage your tower.

SNSD SunnnyDec 30, 20161 votes

let's see

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2386826820/47022294?tab=overview

savage singed, master tier player against a diamond player.

he gets killed several times by his lane opponent yet he is always ahead in gold for the entire game.

because even though he was 0/4, he kept killing their minions and putting pressure nonstop top lane.

when you get killed, you already have 2 minion waves at your turret and getting dove by their top laner and jungler and you're super behind because you lost all the minions and it takes literally no time for them to destroy your turret. that is the difference between a shit player and a good player.

vOmvbrawfUDec 30, 20162 votes

A) You're talking about Singed. That's like saying that diving 1v5 is a great idea because I played Fid and ulted into their 5 men at Baron and Zhonya'd and got a penta kill. If you're going to make an argument, don't make a dumb one.

B) You're gold. I really don't think that classifies you as a "good player" while everyone who disagrees with you is a "shit player".

SNSD SunnnyDec 30, 20161 votes

how is that even an analogy? diving 1 v 5 has almost nothing to do with map pressure.

unless you mean you're split pushing bot lane and the entire enemy team recalls to stop you while the rest of your teammates take baron, then i guess thats a good a 1 v 5. i didn't even call anybody a shit player here, only people who do absolutely nothing are shit. good job putting words into peoples mouths.

CandoodleDec 30, 20161 votes

you cant even pressure in a 3v2 as a heimerdonger

please. guess that means you shit

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2384262269/47022294?tab=overview

SNSD SunnnyDec 30, 20161 votes

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CandoodleDec 30, 20161 votes

let me guess all the games you lose is because "hurrrdurr i wasnt even trying" your ranked teammates must be thrilled

SNSD SunnnyDec 30, 20161 votes

you main jungle and you complain about your laners feeding when its highly likely you're just not helping your laners when they're getting doved 2 v 1

and when you say your laner pushes nonstop, you probably mean their laner shoved the lane into their turret and let the wave rebound towards them, setting up a freeze where they can't cs if they get near. considering that 12 cs is already worth 1 kill, i don't see anything wrong with trying to farm

you think its super easy not to feed because you don't even play solo lanes

CandoodleDec 30, 20161 votes

yes i main jungle and despite that i still keep up in farm and manage not to feed my ass off when i go top

if i can do it as my secondary it's not too much to expect from people who main the role

Troll for TrumpDec 30, 20161 votes

What ends up happening is the make you push. If you sit under turret, you're 0/3 already, they don't care and they'll dive you. If not, they'll freeze and stave you your cs, as entering the frozen "area" will get you killed. The only solution to this is to get your jgler to help, but they won't "Because helping lanes that are behind is pointless".

In a Darius v. Pantheon match, you will have to use Q to farm, and it's ridiculous, because that pushes the lane to Panth's tower, so he freezes it there, and you're vulnerable to ganks or getting all-in'd by Pantheon. And at this point, you can't roam, because you're 0/3 and can't do anything to anyone.

If you're pushed to turret, and the Panth is roaming, you push to punish him for roaming. If you just freeze it in front of your turret, prepared to get ping spammed by everyone else asking you to push.

When I get dived, I don't just sit there, half the times you have to make some offensive action because that's how a champ's kit works. Going back to Darius again, you need to pull them closer, as that procs CoTC, and slows them slightly. You have to turn around and trade with AA+W, or try to land double Q procs.

For Darius vs Pantheon, he just WEQs onto you and you can't do sht about it. Don't say" just don't trade and back off" because that would lose you the lane even more.

Wolf QueenDec 30, 20161 votes

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What ends up happening is the make you push. If you sit under turret, you're 0/3 already, they don't care and they'll dive you. If not, they'll freeze and stave you your cs, as entering the frozen "area" will get you killed. The only solution to this is to get your jgler to help, but they won't "Because helping lanes that are behind is pointless".

If you dont know how to counter a frozen lane please go back to playing norms. Its really simple, enemy freezes lane? Go tp gank bot and take dra/tower, or roam mid and gank that then go back top before your opponent pushes to your tower, or take rift with your jungler, or go ward the enemy jungle and put pressure on him and 2v1 him with your jungle.

I just gave you several different options that even a bronze player can comprehend, yet you choose the stay in lane and die option? Logic. "The only solution is for jungle help" nope i just gave you several solutions.

Troll for TrumpDec 30, 20161 votes

Go tp gank bot and take dra/tower,

He has tp, and, since I'm 0/3 (in case you didn't hear the first time) I'm useless. Even if he doesn't TP, the fact that the lane is frozen in front of my tower means my tower is low, and is going to fall. I can't afford to TP bot, and risk getting even more behind (0/3 means 2 lvls down at least) or losing FB tower.

or roam mid

Read.

I just gave you several different options that even a bronze player can comprehend, yet you choose the stay in lane and die option? Logic. "The only solution is for jungle help" nope i just gave you several solutions.

Answers to the options are all the same. You're behind, it's frozen in front of your turret. You can't trade, you can't farm. You can't leave.

None of those solutions work. Please actually read posts before replying to them next time.

Alex h8721Dec 30, 20161 votes

This is true, but its also true in the other sense.

Say you are botlane, and you get a double as the ADC. Don't start thinking you are the Botlane King because it will go badly.

As Nautilus support I can't tell you how many times I've shifted back the balance of the lane by getting my adc 1 or 2 kills when the enemy duo ahead by 2 kills says "Yolo dive time!" (without the jg) and My tower and I get our adc 2 kills.

SmileInABoxDec 30, 20161 votes

So if you had an even number of kills, but double digit deaths are you still feeding? You probably fucked up a fair share, but you're definitely not feeding.

CandoodleDec 30, 20161 votes

if you are 11/11/0 yes also if you are 11/11/11 IMHO allow me to elaborate

of course if the game goes long enough it's possible you get to double digits but your kills and assists are 30-40 but that's rare your overall kda is irrelevant, you should always strive to have less than double digit kills in games that are average length IMHO

there are exceptions and ofc some roles just naturally are more affected in snowball games like im a lot more forgiving of an adc that suddenly starts dying a lot as the result of another lane getting fed.

i dont think feeding = inting, sometimes players just make poor choices and need to play less aggro or mind the mini map/surroundings more

it's all situational really and i obviously made the post when i was super salty would probably feel differently about the subject if i didnt almost exclusively play tanks either way take anything i post with a grain of salt