I don't understand why people complain about Janna

Marmara·Nov 11, 2014·7 votes·1,891 views

People who say Janna is toxic makes me laugh. Like seriously, she can't deal damage and she is really bad at hard engages. She's good at peeling and resetting teamfights, but that's pretty much all she can do.

You know what's toxic? Champions that can 100-0 you at a blink of an eye like Fizz or Katarina. And now you're saying that out of all champions that you hate the most, you list Janna among them?

Honestly, she shouldn't even be banned. It's a waste of time to ban her.

22 Comments

Deep Terror NamiNov 11, 20144 votes

I don't know why anyone would ban her. Janna blows.

GET IT? TOO FUNNY.

SmackledorbNov 11, 20143 votes

maybe cuz she stops the champions that 100-0 you in a sec

Bouffon dAnglaisNov 11, 20141 votes

janna doesn't stop veigar

Séraphiel Nov 11, 20143 votes

and that's a bad thing?are they supposed to be unstoppable?

i'm really confused about people complaining about her cause she is exactly what a good champ should be according to morello's new philosophy : (very) powerful in one core aspect and really bad in other areas (aka new soraka),janna is sooo good at disengaging and so bad at hard engage/poke/takiness

ComannderShepardNov 11, 20143 votes

I feel the only people who complain about her are the people who get stopped by her. Janna is not a super strong champion in lane when compared to some of the other supports but her ability to peel and keep her carry safe is amazing when her abilities are used right. She also has the ability to really disrupt the enemy team with her ultimate especially if they have a wukong, shyvana, or fiddlesticks. I don't think she's ban worthy.

cshakesNov 11, 20142 votes

She also has a ton of unfavorable matchups bottom lane. Just pick something with poke (Sona, Nami, Zyra...) and roflstomp the lane. She has 475 autoattack range (read: shit) so if she takes Spellthief's Edge, she's guaranteed to come into range of you offensive spells. Her shield is bad against poke, and her mana costs are really high.

Or, if you want to run an engage comp, just effing pick Morgana and laugh at Janna's attempts at CC.

ComannderShepardNov 12, 20141 votes

No one should take any gold item other than ancient coin on Janna. Like you said, her auto attack range is too short and it best to save her spells for peel and engagement rather than harass to proc spell thief's edge. From playing her a lot I've also found that people that can hard engage on her also give her a hard time, especially before level 6. And while she may be able to keep enemies off of herself and others most Janna's, even in the late game, are very very squishy and with team work can be taken down pretty quickly to negate the disruption she brings to team fights.

cshakesNov 12, 20141 votes

Yeah, I agree. The Ancient Coin line also helps her a bit more with her mana issues. Still, nearly everyone I've seen takes a Spellthief's Edge, so it's good to know how to take advantage of it.

My opinion on engage supports vs Janna: Thresh and Blitzcrank are tough, though your passive will help with dodging. Leona is easy pre-6 if once you're 2 (you can cancel her dash with a tornado).

General note on effective Janna-ing: never let anyone come in between you and your carry. Otherwise, you can't emergency ult that Amumu off your carries.

AlljoyNov 11, 20142 votes

Because 'muh Worlds'.

Rule 34 JannaNov 11, 20142 votes

Janna is considered Toxic, but Braum, Morg, Thresh, Leona or Nami arent?

CindikleNov 11, 20142 votes

She's amazing at peeling and keeping her ADC alive.

ADC's have been the center of the meta for a while now. So she's strong because of that. Really no other reason. Same for Rammus. He's strong right now and getting banned because he will get to a point where he removes your ADC from teamfights. He's a counter to hypercarry ADC's.

I'd assume you just haven't seen Janna played in a way to make you want to ban her. She does take skill and timing to play well.

Kowe The EwokNov 11, 20142 votes

Janna has the best disengage ingame - her passive grants an incredible advantage in teamfights, her shield not only shields a lot but also grants valuable AD which scles with your AD carries crits, she got a strong AoE CC. With a single support item she can grant her whole team 25% attackspeed and keep the bonus up on your ADC for quite a while.

I bet you're one of these guys who cries about ADCs being OP (like sadly many new players here do..), without ackknowledging what the support on his side does.

While her laning isn't that impressive Janna is possibly the most vauable asset any ADC can have on his side in a teamfight.

Big Nasty MèatNov 11, 20142 votes

Janna controls the map better than any support in the game by far. Her movespeed and ability to escape/disengage means she can place and clear wards basically wherever she wants with very little risk.

Oh, also the fact that she completely invalidates the entire fighter class outside of Irelia and most forms of engage might bother some people, I dunno. It's one thing to have to deal with laning against top Ryze as a melee fighter, but to have your reward for enduring that hell be to try to chase down a 3-item Lucian with a Janna buffing and peeling for him, it's no wonder people get frustrated with her sometimes.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 11, 20141 votes

People went all pms on that little 12 sec change at all ranks on her W thing. How is that a big deal...?

MarmaraNov 11, 20143 votes

That's actually a pretty big nerf IMO. A 50% increase in cooldown of one of her core spells.

BeatzBoyFTWNov 11, 20141 votes

That's actually a pretty big nerf IMO. A 50% increase in cooldown of one of her core spells.

I think a single Q would be enough to call it a threat lol.

Bouffon dAnglaisNov 11, 20141 votes

Fizz, Kata, and you don't include the ABSOLUTELY BEST AT ONESHOTTING PEOPLE, THE FINAL BAOZ?

BastionKrossNov 11, 20141 votes

It's not that Janna herself is toxic, it's that she can protect and peel for a toxic champ like no other. And that makes her toxic.

The solution isn't to nerf Janna, it's to nerf the toxic champs she's protecting.

EapenatorNov 11, 20141 votes

It's actually quite hilarious how people are starting to think Janna is a problem now.

But it makes sense. Janna was always this good and frustrating to play against, especially against really good Janna's. The only reason you never see her was because melee supports like braum and thresh were over tuned, as well as melee supports being more forgiving and easier to pick up and squishier ones like janna. However, now that these supports have been nerfed quite a few times, squishier supports have now become better, and Janna was one of the best.

Its sad because during the reign of Braum and thresh, I remember every once in a while in solo queue meeting Janna players. And these janna players would be so good at janna that they could make plays and carry the game so hard with their spot on tornadoes and monsoons. Its sad because those people will suffer because of all the complaints now that janna is apparently 'toxic', when she is probably much harder than any of the supports right now, due the nuance of her abilities.

MarthianNov 11, 20142 votes

She was still good even with those supports. In fact, she countered most of them for just throwing a tornado their way and interrupting them.

KingDerrickHenryNov 11, 20141 votes

sustain suppports give her a really hard time in lane

Earl EulrichNov 11, 20141 votes

Because some people love to actually fight and brawl, instead of playing a game of hide&seek. The game had been just a lot better in S2 when teamfighting had been the major part of a match, nowadays it´s just so freaking hard to initiate a fight vs the tons of tools everyone has to escape - so you´re saver of not going for teamfights at all and just wander around till your opponent at some point gets desperate and starts a bad fight to lose the match entirely.

TL:DR Janna is highly frustrating, as she stomps on anyone that tries to make a play instead of making plays herself (mostly)...and just promotes dull gameplay therefor.