If we lose LP for losing promo games...

iHerring·4/10/2016, 7:01:11 AM·36 votes·4,977 views

Why don't we gain LP for winning promo games?

Yesterday I got to my S1 promos, I lost 2 games and go back to S2 ~70 LP Today I got into promos again, win 1 game and advance to S1 0 LP.

What happened to the ~20 LP I got for the promo game win? (Not counting the promo helper free win) http://i.imgur.com/x6mvkHv.png[/img]

Get to 100 LP Lose 2 games Leave promos at 60LP

Get to 100 LP Win 2 games Leave promos at 100LP/0LP

22 Comments

Surfer Ashe4/10/2016, 7:40:30 AM6 votes

Because you get 5 games of immunity when you get promoted.

Now you want LP tacked on that? Lmfao.

kyocrisis4/10/2016, 3:17:14 PM4 votes

I think it's only 3 games of immunity, but yea.

ZeeWolfZ4/10/2016, 11:17:51 PM2 votes

Promos are a Fuckin Joke. They don't work anymore. There is no reason to have promos if you are a capable players. Initially Promos were supposed to make you feel good about winning. Now it's a fuckin headache.

You've worked so hard to climb, avoiding fuckin AFKers, DCers, bads, retards, morgana's top, teemo adcs, so you could get into Promos and lose them to repeat it all over again.

Fuck Promos.

Mokkun4/10/2016, 10:31:17 PM1 votes

Because you do get LP for winning games. That's part of what determines what LP you end up with when you get booted out. That LP doesn't carry over if you win your series, but it does carry over if you lose it.

Nagma is back4/10/2016, 11:58:19 PM1 votes

dont silvers get a free win out of 3 games when you get a promo ? idk why you complain, if you are good you climb .

Llanite4/11/2016, 1:46:54 AM1 votes

FYI, You have 2 loss-prevented games at 0: one take you to zero from wherever you are, and one free loss before you are demoted.

@100 LP, if you fail = 2 losses, you go back to 75 @100 LP, if you succeed = 2 wins, you go to 0 with 2 loss-prevented games.

Lastly, keep in mind that your ranks are relative to everyone else. If most people are silver, silver becomes the new bronze and they'll raise the skin reward to plat, nothing really change.

Irelia Bot4/11/2016, 2:43:19 AM1 votes

I see kind what you are saying but in a different way.

Currently if you win the first game then lose the next 2 games that first game which was won is like it didn't matter at all.

If the game win was an effective 13 LP and then you lose the next 2 which are worht 10 and 11 the net loss should be 8 leaving you at 92.

But as it stands that first win does not matter so you in turn lose 21 LP and have to win 2 games to get back into promos.

Your LP should be able to go above 100 and 100 should just be a trigger for getting into promos.

Troll for Trump4/11/2016, 4:09:57 AM1 votes

Aight, after a 15 min queue wait time, I finally got in a game. No one declared what champ they were playing, so I wasn't sure which champ to pick. It kicks me out because I didn't lock in (why doesn't it just lock in the selected champ?). Now I have to wait 5 minutes AND another queue time.

Evenworse, instead of making my promotionals count as 1 loss, it just makes me go to 97 LP...wtf.

PiVoRx4/11/2016, 7:13:59 AM1 votes

Thats why after every promotion/demotion you should begin new division with 50 lp.

hh the thinker4/10/2016, 7:07:05 AM1 votes

if you lose one and then win, you do gain lp. if you are at 100, you only gain mmr.

iHerring4/11/2016, 10:49:32 AM1 votes

Ok so some people have been unnecessarily snide about it but a good point was raised that I didn't consider when making post, that you get some 'immune' games when you newly join a division.

Maybe a more helpful way of looking at it is that instead of 'losing' the LP I should have got for winning my promos, I get a few games that I sort of can't lose. I don't know if it's 3 or 5 games of "immunity" but if you think about it, there's not a whole lot of difference between these 2 things.

  • Get to S2 100LP, win 2 promos, promote to S1 0LP with games of immunity, lose 2 games with no change to S1 0LP, lose a third game down to S2 80LP
  • Get to S2 100LP, win 2 promos, promote to S1 40LP, lose 2 games down to S1 0LP, lose a third game down to S2 80LP

Depending on the number of games of 'immunity' the current system might even be better than what I was suggesting! http://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZ9kcfgI.png%5B%2Fimg%5D&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=425

kyocrisis4/10/2016, 7:15:29 AM1 votes

He means losing your last promo game vs winning your last one. Losing means you go from 60-90lp generally, while winning all 3 promo games will still put you at 0lp.

LVL 5 PORO4/10/2016, 10:28:20 PM1 votes

omg that picture is so cute :3