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Ornn.......SUCCS REALLY bad. No....i mean it, REaaaaaaallly bad, Aaotrox is better *ANGRY BICKERING*

Clayblob2··4 votes·644 views

i've fell to sleep out of anger and rag from trying to land this dudes skill shot, its just that they take too freaking long, like... his q takes too long for his mountain to pop up, giving any tristana a chance of around 1.5 seconds to predict you and just walk away. his q is too ssmall, trundle support s way better than that pathetic weak little tiny slow and its raidius sucks to. his r is nice, but the way it scales nd what it scales from is very retarded, ornn hates magic, so why does his ult scales fro it? his passive Benifits REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLY SUck, It's not what we expected when we first saw the ornn reveal, we honestly thought ornns passive would upgrade the passives of previos items and make them stronger, like 75%+ 30 AD infinity edge or 20% health heal redemption, or 300% AD scaling trinity force, MAybe returning how much damage sunfire cape used to do with that upgrade. I Tell you Ornn is a big ass letdown, and a failure at what he does. What type of Craftsmen can't craft things worth the crafting. Buddy is trash i tried ornn support 3-4 games ain a row, iv'e practiced all his combo and still got counter picked in al matchups with a tahm kench a zyra and a zilean. ORNN IS TRASH, Dude can't even fight a Mountain if he felt like. That passiveisn't worth nerfing his kite

Ornn's abilities aren't fast enough, his passive doesn't give enough benefits in exchange of how much a Garbage champ he is overall, Imm telling you don't pla ornn, he's a waiste of ip. Absolute Trash. Dude doesn't have a skill-cap, becus all his skills aren't even skils, ornn Breaks fighting rule #1 " Fight tto your opponents disadvantages" And he bbreaks it, ornn gives his opponent the time to actually woop his ass probably with a B.o.r.k, or with thier basic attacks, cus god forbid the guy who tackles mountains can get hit by an earthquake but can't survive one little tristana auto attack without being blasted into oblvian. If ornns going to become a Blacksmith FINE but don't make shitty items, But if ornns going to be a tank he batter be able t tak a hit and cc for his team because this dudes kit is rediculous...

I Feel like ornn was Nerfed waaay before he was even released, like The champ desihn team said, no thats wway to overpowered. Welp its not, shopping isn't as overpowered as you woud like to think, because rememeber the dude still has to back for mana. You KNOW what fit's ornn, IF HE ACTAULLY modefied the items instead of sharpening a sword, or cleaning a handleof an item, IF ornn actually created an item, thier weak. thier trash. We got champs like viegar, and nasus that infinately stack, and some team at riot is complaining that "This Champ might be Busted if we do that" WELP, ornn is definately not on the bright side the winrate radar, so a OP buff might save this trainwreck of a champ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhIopEYanxc

cmon, fix this dude scaling, Give ornn Gold discounts (Personally, if he makes the items himself Lets say 30% less if he makes the item you can call it bargaining, remember Ornn was the same dude who taught doran to build, and now dorans retarded) Give ornn up to 90% slow on his q ; like nasus's w, Give ornns Q some size and radius for the slow, Make able to break terrain<--- Actually, that would be too fun and broken at the same time, i would have a blast if that would happen.

please improve the champ, buff the man, He can't deliver some quality to a team comp,he looks fun to play, but in reality he feels like a Burden to play with and your team will hate you for picking him, until late game, cus' you have no real powerspikes

8 Comments

Pixie Storm3 votes

I don't fucking understand why people pick him like don't fucking play him. Especially when we're trying to win a ranked game.

Clayblob21 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2SvT2byzoQ

lmao look at what i found XDDD 8:47 -9:30 even te great Imaqtpie said it himself

Pixie Storm1 votes

I saw this lmao I love qtpie. I'm so done with people thinking they can play Ornn.

Fütanari1 votes

Last 3 champs were good so they ran out of good champ points and then they came up with ornn

Clayblob21 votes

i can just imagine, the summoners calling orrn into the league of legends, and thier Like OMG! Bonus AD item UPGRADE!!! welcome to the league of legends buddy, You sir are op. The abiltiy to pay for gold for something you make?? wow Thats crazy.

ornn's probibly somewere out thier probibly homeless in the mountains like sorry bro, i would make that item but i need gold. so i can buy that dorans ring from myself.

by the way Dorans ring that ornn creates should be called Ornn's ring

Iota Theta1 votes

I don’t even know where to start. Try him Top or Jungle, not Support. Some can make it work, but he’s better when in those two roles because he has to get his tank items.

Ornn is actually incredibly strong when you actually know how to play him. The long range engage, the knockups and tenacith reduction of Brittle, his W shield has a lot going on with the shield, Unstoppable, and Brittle application, giving it quite a few different uses. His Q is not designed to block people like Trundle’s pillar, but more for the slow and E setup. Hit the slow on Q, follow up with an E, and most toplaners can’t avoid the knockup followed by W.

His damage sucks because....he’s a tank. He shouldn’t put out damages like Gragas or Maokai (Gragas is an abomination of a tank), because his power is elsewhere, and the scalings are, I believe, to avoid things like full AP Alistar, full AP Malphite, full AP Maokai, full AD Sion, etc, but to allow for items that can take advantage of those scalings if he really wants to buy them so they aren’t a complete waste.

His passive adds a lot to the laning and jg phase, allowing you to get what you need and when. Need some extra health? Build ruby crystal. Health rejen? Rejuv bead. Immediate mana need? Mana crystal. If you need mana regen for a short time, pick up a fairie trinket and sell it later (since it builds into 0 tank items). This is the most important part of his passive, the ability to stay out if base longer and have more presence with his team.

As for the Masterwork items, The video points out the fact that, for an ADC, buying a Zeal or any of the other items is better than Molten Edge...which is the entire point. They are supposed to be upgrades you buy last to get that extra stat edge over your opponents, not some extra early power spike (if I recall correctly, rushing Infinity Edge over a Zeal item is also not the most efficient way to do things, but is better 2nd or 3rd after Shiv/RFC). The items had to be stronger, but not so strong that they’d be insta rush (which contributes to his teammates being weaker since they delay crucial items) because he’d end up picked just for the weapons.

Ornn does what he’s supposed to do very well:

  • lane presence due to passive, which allows him to build up better than his opponent without losing out on gold or XP.
  • Tankiness..that 12% max hp shield and unstoppable status are amazing on him
  • engage..because he’s a Vanguard and has a very strong long range engage that also makes ally CC stronger for better lockdowns.
  • teamfight power, he can disrupt fights like crazy with W, Brittle, and his knockups. Either his enemies eat the CC/debuff, or they get force into a not so great position for the fight.

Things Ornn does not need:

  • a 90% slow on a tank that has multiple displacements. Hitting the slow on Q now is enough to land the E shockwave on the enemy
  • better base/scaling damage because tanks should not be damage threat, and in fact a lot of current tanks could use to have damage cut to have power in other ways. Heck, look at Shen, who has low base defense stats and not so great scalings, but he can contribute a lot in other ways and is a consistent pick in proplay and higher elos because of the taunt and ultimate.
  • to go with the previous point, and more toward Riot....Ornn does NOT need 20% max HP damage on his most spammable ability, W. I repeat, he does NOT need buffs to damage, especially none like that.

Buff base defenses if anything stat increases.

Adjust Brittle power, like reduce damage or debuff duration and allow other abilities to apply the debuff to his enemy (Credit for that idea does not belong to me, but a favorite of mine, second only to the change below).

Make the camera zoom out for the ultimate so Ornn can see himself and his enemies, similar to how it does for Xerath and Jihn for their Ultimates (this is my personal favorite).

P.S. you’re gonna need more than 3-4 Ornn games to get a good feel for his kit and power. If you really want to keep claiming this, try it over on the Ornn mains subreddit and see what he can really do.

Clayblob21 votes

Thanks im going to try ornn Jungle then, see if my oppinion changes. However the brittle Thing should stay, That had helped me take down a Fed Tanky Nasus for my team thier was no counterplay nasus.We needed somone that able to peel and kill him. Right now im going to go and look up on Mobafire for ornn jungle just because I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS CHAMP. i usually play ARAM to force me to learn champs, I usually leaarn how to play a champ withing one or two games of playing them. Personally with every champion Excluding Master yi and trndamere, Tryndamere Aaotrox and mordekaiser it took more than one attempt to understand thier playstyle p.s Azir. Either way Ornnn is by farthest the HARDEST champion ive ever tried to Master his playstyle. Its Absolute Alien, it maake me so Irrateted because His Skillshots are sooo hard to land

Clayblob21 votes

OK i've Tried Ornn Jungle, He is the Best Jungler in all Existence. Thanks for the suggestion. The Mobafire Build were Terrible, You were right, however Ornn Doesn't belong in Any lane. Ornn belongs in Jungle only; i only say this because most of the time you will get counterpickedthen get poked out of lane by some kayle, jayce, teemo, syndra, or quinn top. People just like to pick OP chhamps against this guy. So i now see that jungle is his only home THANK YOU i can now finally have some fun with this champ*[poppy-wink]*

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