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Itemization v.s Master Yi?

Hunkcules··2 votes·1,034 views

Hello, I am looking for some knowledge in regards to itemization v.s Master Yi. Usually if I am full health and Yi kill's me by himself, my death recap will show about the same thing. It's usually 25-35% true damage, 25-35% physical, 25-35% magic. As we all know Master Yi clean's up quite quickly and flawlessly, I'm just curious as to what I should be building in regards to defensive item's. I try to stick by a golden rule I learned, I hope it's accurate. I tend to lean more toward's Health, until I reach 2000 HP. Once I'm there, I build some resistances of course based off what my enemies have purchased. Yet, despite this, whether I have nothing but resistance and health, or whether I have a "bruiser" build, somewhere in between partial damage/partial tankiness, I can't seem to live any longer against master yi. Are there certain champion's in this game, which building "Tankiness" is counter productive? Would it be more beneficial to just build straight damage, in order to try to peel him or kill him first? Thank you.

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Chroud1 votes

Although he cant not be slowed or CC during his Ult.

Champs with Silnce or some sort of CC work well against him. At low levels he is squishy if you see him rushing in spread out when you run back to turret so he isnt Qing both of you for his initial strike.

But most Yi ganks start with his Ultimate. For this You should save your flash to quickly get out of a bad situation.

The main counter to Yi though is Wards. Good wards will save you time in and time again. Intell you can build proper armor to try and stand with him.

Champs that can trade with him well are Chogath Pantheon XinZhao Jax

Chroud1 votes

and my favorite champ destorys himsFiddlesticks

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

It's hilarious to see Master Yi flee from you at ~500 MS.

RUN AWAY!!!

Fanny Forecast1 votes

summoner 3 best counter to Yi.

Wenderwall1 votes

Exhaust isn't the best one yet, it won't stop AA. It'll stop Q only. Exhaust works well if you are a ranged champ and can drain his >60% health in <2 seconds.

Not sure but if Yi Ult is activated exhaust won't work.

Fanny Forecast1 votes

Exhaust works on AAs of any sort. It slows attack speed and move speed, his ult prevents MOVE speed slows, but still slows his attack speed. Exhaust goes on after the ASPD buff from his ult.

Sasogwa1 votes

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Exhaust works on AAs of any sort. It slows attack speed and move speed, his ult prevents MOVE speed slows, but still slows his attack speed. Exhaust goes on after the ASPD buff from his ult.

No it doesn't, and neither does Nasus's wither. But it provides a handy %damage reduction. In any case, Master Yi's kit, and the fact he has true damage, makes him one of the champions least affected by exhaust in the entire game.

Fanny Forecast1 votes

Gah, Sorry, that's what I meant. It lessens his dmg when he's in ult still, my bad. But yeah, Yi still gets heavily affected by exhaust either way, just the true dmg and fact that his hits go 1-2-1-3 (meaning single proc, double proc, single proc, triple proc) is super duper annoying and a bit OP. Considering the fact that he can reliably build like a bruiser is really annoying too. He does need a nerf, but hes far from being actually OP. Just super strong.

Wenderwall1 votes

In short Exhaust isn't a counter to YI. Hard CC, Ashe's frost attack, Cait's trap, jinx slowing attack, etc are the counters ( which again can be dodged using Q) - Well played yi can wreck havoc, decently played yi against bad teams is penta kill Yi.

AL0001 votes

nope... as long as he has a ton of gold to spend... otherwise he is useless...

if he is very strong then just use your hard cc+ burst and or ganks/duo to stop him...

Jbels1 votes

It depends on what he is building. If he's going for Rageblade/Devourer Cheese, you'll need thornmail and an MR item. If he's going normal old Yisus, Thorn mail and Randuins should do the trick

bahamutkaiser1 votes

The counter to Yi is burst damage and CC. If your trying to out sustain him, it's really going to depend on combining the right champion with the right items.

Most of the time a combination of minor defense and high damage/sustain is better than high defense. You'll get the most dramatic return on items like Ninja Tabi. Stacking defense will just get penetrate and ignored though, to which point you simply build damage and offensive recovery and hope you can melt his 0 defense build quicker than he can melt you. A reliable CC mage can probably handle it.

Miku Lv991 votes

You need either hard cc or crazy burst damage. Building tanky once he has Guinsoo's is almost completely useless as it won't increase how long it takes for him to kill you by very much. The trick is that your team should try to stay together and gang up on him when he attacks. Oh and don't just try to run away since you'll probably just leave the slowest member of your team to die.

Sasogwa1 votes

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Are there certain champion's in this game, which building "Tankiness" is counter productive? Would it be more beneficial to just build straight damage, in order to try to peel him or kill him first? Thank you.

Yes, and Master Yi is a good example. Because even if his concept is not as ridiculous as %health true damage (like Fiora) Yi will always be a tank melter. His damage output is really strong and it's his identity. You don't tank a Yi, you CC and kill him. Ofc if your kit is based on CC, some tankiness will always be good. Tankiness is not flat out bad, it's just less effective against Yi that it would be against other champions, like let's say Tryndamere, who has purely physical damage. You want to burst out Yi, which is not so easy in a 1v1 scenario because he has tools to mitigate it, but rather feasible in a teamfight where Yi will be focused down (that's kinda why Yi is better in splitpushing/duelling than teamfighting)

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