Just because you are duo, doesn't mean you can only gank their lane

Hoox0rz·8/1/2017, 8:00:19 PM·32 votes·1,547 views

Literally all the time. If there is a duo they are guaranteed to only gank that lane. In my last game bot and top were getting pushed in and we were both asking for ganks and this is what the jg was doing:

Clear top jg, gank mid from top side; clear bottom jg, gank mid from bot side; rinse and repeat.

Never got a dragon, never pushed objectives, never ganked top or bot.

Correct me if I am wrong but I dont think this is how jg is suppose to be played. If this is how jg is to be played I have been jungling wrong.

32 Comments

InstaPoppy8/1/2017, 8:34:41 PM16 votes

I'm not saying only ganking your premade is a good thing but it can be advantageous because they know eachother and are likely on voice coms, which could make the gank have a higher succes rate.

Beas7ie8/1/2017, 8:07:12 PM11 votes

I play Top, Mid, and Jungle, and when I jungle duoing with a friend who mains support I find that I gank his lanes LESS than the others. Usually it's because I know he's doing well and if they're pushed it can be tough to get that gank in anyways, while top or mid aren't doing as well and usually need the help. I then focus on other objectives like towers, dragons, and rift herald/baron.

Of course there are many factors going into determining where to gank. Are the lanes pushed? Cause if you push your lane and the enemy laner got a freeze then I'm not going into tower dive that full health Nasus or Renekton who just hit level 6.

Arakadia8/1/2017, 9:31:13 PM7 votes

Literally all the time. If there is a duo they are guaranteed to only gank that lane.

Don't say LITERALLY and GUARENTEED when your exaggerating. That automatically makes you look like you don't have real evidence.

Darth StepVader8/1/2017, 8:52:55 PM3 votes

Just because THEY are premade, doesnt mean you get to feed your brains off.

Hear Me Now8/1/2017, 11:19:41 PM2 votes

Who gives a fuck? Stop worrying about how others are playing the game lmao. Unless they're 0-8 you should be focusing on yourself.

I promise you that you don't know anything about jungling anyway

Tribbles Foxfolk8/1/2017, 11:42:38 PM2 votes

Can we amend this to "Just because you are duo doesn't mean you are the only two people in the game"? I'm so tired of having duo queues ruin games.

Gelmous8/2/2017, 1:28:47 PM2 votes

apparently all my junglers are duo with someone on the enemy team

13900 Essence8/2/2017, 5:07:30 AM2 votes

People CAN do whatever they want, it doesn't mean that they should, nor does it mean it is right or wrong.

Tulare8/2/2017, 6:00:53 PM1 votes

Sometimes this comes down to communication. Getting the lane ready for a gank when the jungler's at the right point in their rotation requires coordination. I know that when I jungle, I'm not good enough to time my clears so that I'll be around any particular lane when it's naturally ripe for a gank. I need the laners to help me get the timing right. Otherwise, the lane's pushed and I just sit in the brush failing to accomplish anything. That timing is a lot easier when I'm in voice chat with the laners.

Carteeeer8/2/2017, 8:51:24 PM1 votes

jungler is not your bitch to command where they go

Solavis8/1/2017, 9:44:06 PM1 votes

preach it brother

SanKakU8/2/2017, 12:19:59 AM1 votes

They are doing that because their Kalista is middle lane and jungle is her slave or else they are playing out of character.

OMGSoAnnoying8/2/2017, 5:03:11 AM1 votes

It's not. Granted, as a jg I gank less than most in general. However, I'm always LOOKING to gank, while I farm and look to take objectives/counter jungle. I duo regularly with a top laner friend. If he's ahead, I gank elsewhere (and tell him this). If he's feeding, he'll tell me to ignore his lane. Granted, he'll also mention in comms "Hey, I've got him low and he's pushing, river's not warded", and if that happens I'm rolling up that way IF and ONLY IF I'm close enough (aka that half of the map, that way the enemy jg has little or no time to set up a counter gank unless he's already there). If he tells me this and I'm on the other side of the map, I'll tell him I'm not in the area. It's easier when I know damn well the opportunity is there and being preserved.

However, I could accept not ganking a lot if your jg is getting a ton of neutral objectives (say, two to three dragons and herald by 20 mins). If he's not doing this, he's doing it wrong. If he's ganking one lane repeatedly and failing, he's doing it wrong.

Granted, there's more to doing a gank than if the enemy team is pushed up.

Are you (the laners) low hp? Behind? Or both? Is the enemy laner full or mostly so? Do you have at least one hard CC for gank assistance, or does he have to do all the CC and not have much himself? I especially ask this going for mid lane, as it's the shortest lane and I have the least amount of space to get a successful gank off. Is the minion wave huge? In early game (pre-level 10) this matters a lot, simply because the minion damage gets nuts. Has the other jungler been spotted ANYWHERE in the past, say... 60 seconds? All that and more will go through a jungler's head... or at least it SHOULD... when determining to gank or not gank.

One further thing... a successful gank, defined as I see it: I either got his flash/mobility spell (whether or not I spent my own, although it's a fail to me if I blew flash but got a ghost), got their life (whichever one of us got the kill) or at the least FORCED them to back. If they have to recall, that wave is being shoved under their tower to deny them the farm unless you can freeze it by your tower. If I blew their flash, I'll be back shortly, especially if they're an immobile champ.

Anyway, time to stop my ramble...

Ariel the Cruel8/2/2017, 5:05:43 AM1 votes

I'm a support main. I queue with jungle mains. It's just coincidence that all the ganks come down here. Honest!

Unless I'm goat top. Then it's not coincidence. Our jungler shows up a lot for the health. (>_>)

aspects18/2/2017, 9:07:01 AM1 votes

its not that they cant, its that they dont want to they want to help the person the (most likely), know irl why would they take the time to help a random when they could help someone they know premades in general are pretty toxic towards solo players. one thing i suggest, though it may be a bit extreme, would be that premades have to be 5 mans, and are only matched with other 5 mans

Salson8/2/2017, 9:46:49 AM1 votes

Are you Diamond or something?

I low elo ADC can't cs, Support playes Teemo, Mid can't land skillshots, Top permapushes .... and ofc Junglers don't know how to gank.

We suck, what's new.

Umbra Z8/2/2017, 5:45:13 PM1 votes

I gank my premade the least, they should win their lane and let me win the others so we all stomp as 5 easy