Ok so about graves and his auto attacks.

Wolfess··2 votes·3,399 views

How do they interact with the following items since I'm trying stuff out.

1: item 3153

2: item 3071

I can probably see it applying a full stack of back cleaver because black cleaver's passive builds stacks on physical damage, not just limited to autos, but would still like confirmation.

bork however I'm really curious about.

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Mr Vulcanator2 votes

I'm more curious about how his innate interacts with AS. Does it increase reload speed and/or reduce the delay between shots?

Shrek Luigi2 votes

Decreases the delay between shots significantly, and the reload time by a nominal amount. Usually one or two aspd items will do the trick, and berserker greaves are generally not a good option versus the protection from AA's that Tabi offers, or the protection from CC and magic pokes from Mercs, or even boots of swiftness/mobility once you get the furor enchant on it for more reliable positioning. Tabi is what I end up buying most of the time, as it makes trading against Graves extremely difficult for most botlane matchups.

Something like this is Hella strong--item 3508item 3046item 3031item 3036item 3026item 3047

LOLegitimate1 votes

each bullet will trigger on hit effects but in can only apply once per shell which means on hit is not that good on graves.

now here is my question: does his auto count as single target or aoe?

Shrek Luigi1 votes

Every first hit on a target who gets tagged, per shot, counts as a regular AA. The extra hits just apply a damage multiplier. TForce only works on the person you're AAing.

Shrek Luigi1 votes

Botrk can hit multiple targets, but only once per shot, and generally isn't a good pick because Graves can't fire off many AA's to proc the unique passive. Might be viable endgame in conjunction with Hurricane and other onhit stuff due to Graves interaction with that item (can hit champions up to twice at once per AA, stacking more onhits), but overall it seems like a bad idea.

Black Cleaver can also hit multiple targets, and would be useful for a bruiser build in the jungle or toplane (which can work), but generally doesn't beat item 3036/item 3033 as an arpen item choice.

The most important thing to build on Graves is AD, and building stuff like Botrk leaves you at a huge deficit of that. Graves has a couple quirky item interactions that make them viable item 3087item 3085, but overall he's best built like a critical powerhouse for sake of upping his self-gating AA burst damage.

Both Tforce and IBG proc the sheen passive on the first bullet only, and that one bullet really isn't significant, so it's generally not a good buy. RFC is also a pretty poor pick.

Wolfess1 votes

Thanks, that was pretty insightful [slayer-jinx-catface]

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