There are people who use Singed as a support and they are really good, but Riot games just bans these playersbecause of "Unconventional playstyle" I dont understand why Riot games does this,just because they play not they role they are supposed to play with their Champs.
PhantomGG4 votesYou really aren't aware of the full story and it shows heavily in how you are talking.
AchiIles3 votesYeah there is a lot more than that. The singed support with smite was banned for a reason
PainisCupcake1 votesThey said he didnt communicated with his team but he did and he was really good in his role too, so i dont see a problem.
midnight oil243 votesHe forced them into something they weren't comfortable playing. You don't tell people that they have to do things your way and when they bring up potential issues you just ignore them and force your will on them.
PhantomGG2 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g8Mxdihp,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-10T19:42:19.405+0000)
He forced them into something they weren't comfortable playing. You don't tell people that they have to do things your way and when they bring up potential issues you just ignore them and force your will on them.
League has for the most part made it clear this is a 5 roles game and has made it clear, stealing someones job is very toxic, the singed who got famous for doing for it, was essentially stealing his junglers job while claiming he was "playing support"
midnight oil241 votesTrue, there was also that.
Funkin Dunkin1 votesYet they still won't ban for that very reason. How odd [zombie-brand-mindblown]
MysterQ2 votesYou sound... just wrong with how things played out...
Why is this even being discussed again? It is over I thought.
archerno12 votesThey said he didnt communicated with his team but he did and he was really good in his role too, so i dont see a problem.
And he was unbanned. WHy are u bringing 1 year old shit now? Problem was he was just leaving his ADC alone without saying anything
PainisCupcake1 votesWell, riot games can ban player even for calling a bad player a retard. I mean Phreak banned tyler 1 himself because he holds a grudge against tyler. They back then had a lot of problems with each other. But well,he plays again.
PhantomGG4 votesWell, riot games can ban player even for calling a bad player a retard. I mean Phreak banned tyler 1 himself because he holds a grudge against tyler. They back then had a lot of problems with each other. But well,he plays again.
You really need to stop talking about stories you clearly didn't put much research into. Tyler 1s ban runs FAR DEEPER than phreak not liking him. At this point no insult, i'm legit wondering if your a teenager on the younger side who just instantly believes the first thing he's told.
archerno13 votesWell, riot games can ban player even for calling a bad player a retard. I mean Phreak banned tyler 1 himself because he holds a grudge against tyler. They back then had a lot of problems with each other. But well,he plays again.
Its their game, they dont need reason to ban people. Phreak didnt ban Tyler. Socrates did
As for his accounts , IFS banned him.
Lemme guess, you just saw some reddit posts from salty banned people and u bring them up without research.
PainisCupcake1 votesWell,Phreak spoke about it as well during a stream but he also indirectly mocked Tyler which enraged tyler too. They played plenty of matches against each other.
archerno11 votesWell,Phreak spoke about it as well during a stream but he also indirectly mocked Tyler which enraged tyler too. They played plenty of matches against each other.
Yes because Phreak is one of active Riot streamers and people ask that all the time. Even Tryndamere spoke about it and he is co-owner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce9r7mHT9Ac
And they didnt play " plenty of matches against each other". Only few. First one Tyler1 threatened to troll cause enemy team banned Draven and he picked Teemo but someone dodged. And 2nd time was iconic one when he killed Phreak while yelling "you have no mana". Tyler1 got banned around 15 times before he met Phreak first time. Tyler got "discovered" by DiscoHeat who makes fun of toxic delusional streamers.
Mecha MaIphite2 votesIIRC he was playing at an elo lower than what he regularly played at, and didn't even have a good winrate. His overall Singed winrate came from top games. So whether or not it was even good is debatable.
Moreover, there's doing an off-meta strategy with a coordinated team, and doing it to a bunch of random people in solo queue. Most ADCs aren't used to playing effectively without a support, and that creates an awful experience for them. I know people love to champion these "off-meta" strategies (except for when they pop up in their ranked games), but when they're seriously affecting how well other people can play, let alone enjoy, the game, we get problems.
PhantomGG1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mecha MaIphite,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g8Mxdihp,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2017-08-10T19:53:15.243+0000)
IIRC he was playing at an elo lower than what he regularly played at, and didn't even have a good winrate. His overall Singed winrate came from top games. So whether or not it was even good is debatable.
Moreover, there's doing an off-meta strategy with a coordinated team, and doing it to a bunch of random people in solo queue. Most ADCs aren't used to playing effectively without a support, and that creates an awful experience for them. I know people love to champion these "off-meta" strategies (except for when they pop up in their ranked games), but when they're seriously affecting how well other people can play, let alone enjoy, the game.
It's kind of like when you play soccer with a bunch of strangers, and one player on your team decides "hey let's have two goalies" and legit stands next to the goalie the entire game. This puts everyone on the offense position in a huge disadvantage for the game is now at a numbers disadvantage. What the player is doing is not "a clever strategy" it's simply being toxic for he refuses to believe what he's doing is a bad idea.
TBH this is exactly what he was doing.
Mysticman891 votesPlaying singed support and similar unconventional playstyles is not something they ban for, provided they're still playing with the intent to win. The big singed sup controversy thing was awhile ago, the singed was unbanned, and they even made a big post surrounding their policy on these things in the follow up to make sure that the issue isn't an issue in the future.
Zykklon B1 votesFuck your team, do what you feel is right. I play singed top/mid/support If i dont feel like playing Thresh
