RIP Karma 5/15

Kaipop·5/15/2015, 8:26:58 PM·2 votes·651 views

This post isn't very well written IMO, but I'd like to bring more attention to the Karma changes

Hello, I'm a Karma Main and I just want to say I am very displeased with the new Karma changes that have been brought out. RicklessAbandon has said these are supposed to help her support while giving her better scaling into lategame. Here they are for anyone who hasn't seen:

Gathering Fire (passive) CD refund on spell hit increased to 2/2.5/3 at level 1/7/13 from 2 at all levels. CD refund on basic attack increased to 1/1.25/1.5 at level 1/7/13 from 1 at all levels

This is a pure buff, I have no problem with the changes to her passive

Renewal (R+W) No longer deals damage New Effect: Increases root duration (if triggered) by .75/1/1.25/1.5 seconds

Karma's W dealt a pretty large amount of damage if used with her Mantra. Now, all of that is gone in exchange for 1.5 seconds of extra cc. This is a huge nerf to Solo Lane Karma, and arguably even a nerf to support Karma as many support Karmas liked to build some AP to deal extra damage.

Inspire (E) Cooldown lowered to 10/9/8/7/6 seconds from 10 seconds at all ranks Mana cost lowered to 60/65/70/75/80 from 60/70/80/90/100. Shield amount decreased to 80/110/140/170/200 from 80/120/160/200/240

I actually do like this change. While the shield is slightly lower, she can cast it more often meaning more movement speed and potentially more damage blocked overall.

Defiance (R+E) No longer deals damage Now increases primary shield by 30/90/150/210 (+30% AP) AoE shield amount increased to 50% of the primary target's shield from 30/70/100/150

This is a large nerf to solo lane Karma, and arguably doesn't buff or nerf support Karma. Before this, Karma was able to Mantra E the initiator, dealing damage in a large circle around the initiator. Now that it deals 0 damage, it doesn't allow her to get the AoE damage off. Also a large nerf to her lategame waveclear, if there's a large wave she can no longer walk inside and RE to kill most of the minions.

I don't think I was fully able to express my anger about these "balance" changes to a completely balanced solo laner and support champion in this post. She has no reason to be changed. I never would've expected or wanted my main to be gutted for no reason. Please revert these changes.

10 Comments

kitcat3005/15/2015, 8:43:19 PM1 votes

I mostly liked the CD aspect of the shield. Having the potential to refund 10 seconds off Mantra in one spell was awesome. This is probably the reason the passive was buffed, but still, I'm hoping the buff to the AOE shield will make up for it.

KidSpectre5/15/2015, 8:52:23 PM1 votes

As a Karma main who was at first enthusiastic about the changes, I gotta say that I don't like the RW change. On the upside, it's a whopping 3.5 second root (?!) at max rank. That's gonna get changed, I'm sure, because people hate Morgana's root at 3 seconds. On the down side, well, it does no damage, and in addition grants no healing either. I hate this part.

EDIT: I need to check some sources for the "removed healing" bit.

aquaticwonder5/15/2015, 9:17:38 PM1 votes

Why take away her damage for no reason whatsoever?

SnugglePuggle945/15/2015, 9:22:04 PM1 votes

I play Karma every once in awhile when I need a change from my main Diana and Kat. Today, I tried her out mid, and surprisingly I went against Jayce and did well mid lane, got first blood and multiple kills after, even stole a dragon with my RQ. I didn't really miss the nerf as I never really ulted my shield much at all with her. But I guess that damage bomb is missed, so I would like it back too. Here's my stats if you want them.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1824405528/223752816?tab=overview