Lp gains make no sense

A Wild Poppy··4 votes·1,964 views

So i got plat 2 by the end of preseason, managed to go 8-2 in placements being placed in plat 3 with quite high mmr, won my first game and was given 26 lp, lost the next 2 due to afks losing about 14 a loss. Okay ohwell ill just make it back, i win the next few and only gain 12-14 a win, and im losing 23. Uhm wtf? why did i literally swap after 1-2 losses. is lp gain/loss just fucked right now? should i be waiting to play?

19 Comments

Pavello22 votes

I mean last game I played on my smurf last night I was gaining 27+ and I come on today and I start gaining 12 and losing 12 is weird

Viocie2 votes

feels like theres something wrong with the mmr now... was gaining 25lp when I win, after one lose suddenly reduced to 15lp per win..

Breaku1 votes

Haha, the whole system doesn't make sense right now.

Ended gold3, got placed silver4 after 7-3 placements, but I haven't seen anything but s6 plats with a few s6 golds here and there.

EDIT: this is the lowest I've ever been placed feelsbadman

Tsugaga1 votes

{quoted}

Haha, the whole system doesn't make sense right now.

Ended gold3, got placed silver4 after 7-3 placements, but I haven't seen anything but s6 plats with a few s6 golds here and there.

EDIT: this is the lowest I've ever been placed feelsbadman

Placement isn't a big deal, and is more of a safe than sorry system. You're not going to be placed at or near your previous rank, it's supposed to be some what of a reset. A G3 player should have no problem getting out of Silver. Also, while you may be placed in S4, your MMR might be in the Gold range, so you'll earn a lot of LP per win and won't lose much as much for a loss. Just realize that your own actions are what result in your League position, making excuses will just hold you back.

Pavello21 votes

{quoted}

Placement isn't a big deal, and is more of a safe than sorry system. You're not going to be placed at or near your previous rank, it's supposed to be some what of a reset. A G3 player should have no problem getting out of Silver. Also, while you may be placed in S4, your MMR might be in the Gold range, so you'll earn a lot of LP per win and won't lose much as much for a loss. Just realize that your own actions are what result in your League position, making excuses will just hold you back.

Considering I was gaining 27+ lp last night I come on today and Im gaining 12 and losing 22 is a problem

Breaku1 votes

yeah, I'm not worried about it, 5-1 and in promos already BUT I would much rather be playing with silvers.... in silver rather than with plats in silver.

Like, what even is this match: http://prntscr.com/dh5cap (for the record, 8 of the 9 other players were plat s6)

Tsugaga1 votes

Variations in LP gain/loss is meant to move you to a position in a league more accurate with your MMR. Losing a lot of LP or winning very little means you're positioned too high.

A Wild Poppy1 votes

Positioned too high after going 8-2 and stomped all the night before, with mmr in low diamond high plat, getting 26-27 a win, then all the sudden getting 12-13? no, theres no way

Tsugaga1 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Wild Ivern,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fqVMudYg,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-12-09T00:50:07.662+0000)

Positioned too high after going 8-2 and stomped all the night before, with mmr in low diamond high plat, getting 26-27 a win, then all the sudden getting 12-13? no, theres no way

Your feeling of deserving a higher status is making you less open minded. A lot goes into LP gain/loss, and I'm sure the potential of a lucky win streak is factored in. When you're "stomping" and moving up quick, then lose 2+ games, the game thinks that maybe it moved you up too high, and so you drop a bit and then earn less LP for a few games to prevent moving you up too high.

Seenan1 votes

{quoted}

Your feeling of deserving a higher status is making you less open minded. A lot goes into LP gain/loss, and I'm sure the potential of a lucky win streak is factored in. When you're "stomping" and moving up quick, then lose 2+ games, the game thinks that maybe it moved you up too high, and so you drop a bit and then earn less LP for a few games to prevent moving you up too high.

Nah. Never been like that.

A Wild Poppy1 votes

i doubt it, considering there about 2-4 posts on forums about this EXACT issue. and a huge reddit post about it aswell, i think it may be another bug with mmr-lp gain kinda like how flew was so fuckered

JukeSik1 votes

It isn't adjusting. I went 5-5 in placements. Have been 7-2 since placing. Gaining 12-13 LP per win losing 24+ on loss. This isn't right... There is no way this is right..

Tsugaga1 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Wild Ivern,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fqVMudYg,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2016-12-09T01:11:08.942+0000)

i doubt it, considering there about 2-4 posts on forums about this EXACT issue. and a huge reddit post about it aswell, i think it may be another bug with mmr-lp gain kinda like how flew was so fuckered

Yeah everyone complains about weird LP gain/loss because they don't know how it's calculated, so it must be broken. When mass ignorance results in a popular misconception being regarded as fact.

Tusutaki1 votes

Ended with Gold 1 Went 4 - 6 Literally all of those loses was from feeders and trolls Placed in silver 2

As for as LP gain, it might be a new system where it lowers your loss if you have an afk. I dont know how LP gains in plat works but that would be my assumption.

Tsugaga2 votes

{quoted}

Ended with Gold 1 Went 4 - 6 Literally all of those loses was from feeders and trolls Placed in silver 2

As for as LP gain, it might be a new system where it lowers your loss if you have an afk. I dont know how LP gains in plat works but that would be my assumption.

Feeders and trolls? Did you not make even one mistake? Even professionals make mistakes every game, even missing a minion kill or missing a skill shot is a mistake. Focus less on what you can't change (other's mistakes) and more on what you can change (your mistakes). Sure, some games a player might make many more mistakes than others, but every loss or win is attributed to every player.

Calling out a teammate for a mistake is more of a mistake than whatever you were calling out your teammate for. A feeding teammate can make it harder to win, but feeding isn't as big of a deal as some think, the problem is the reaction to the feeding and is what causes a loss more often than the feeding.

Tusutaki1 votes

When your ADC keeps picking Vayne with my Soraka, top and mid lanes wont stop dieing for 2 minutes, and have Ziggs support and Velkoz top, then yeah I think im going to stick by what I said with feeders and trolls. I know there are a bunch of people that heard what I said in my former post but whether or not you want to believe it is up to you. Not implying im perfect in anyway but I am no where near the reason why I lost the said 6 games. And you should know as well that there are some games even the professionals cant carry.

As for calling them out, I normally dont. I dont really say much of anything ingame except for pings when appropriate. Which by the way, people really need to learn how to use the damn mute function.

Tsugaga1 votes

{quoted}

When your ADC keeps picking Vayne with my Soraka, top and mid lanes wont stop dieing for 2 minutes, and have Ziggs support and Velkoz top, then yeah I think im going to stick by what I said with feeders and trolls. I know there are a bunch of people that heard what I said in my former post but whether or not you want to believe it is up to you. Not implying im perfect in anyway but I am no where near the reason why I lost the said 6 games. And you should know as well that there are some games even the professionals cant carry.

As for calling them out, I normally dont. I dont really say much of anything ingame except for pings when appropriate. Which by the way, people really need to learn how to use the damn mute function.

Yeah, I just see that everyone adds excuses about feeders and trolls on topics like this. Nobody ever says they lost games without adding in an excuse.

llllllllllIlIIII1 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Wild Ivern,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fqVMudYg,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-12-08T23:51:40.655+0000)

So i got plat 2 by the end of preseason, managed to go 8-2 in placements being placed in plat 3 with quite high mmr, won my first game and was given 26 lp, lost the next 2 due to afks losing about 14 a loss. Okay ohwell ill just make it back, i win the next few and only gain 12-14 a win, and im losing 23. Uhm wtf? why did i literally swap after 1-2 losses. is lp gain/loss just fucked right now? should i be waiting to play?

i litteraly have the same issue, it makes no sense atm to play

Capucin

Hey, I have quite the same problem, Got from G3 to S1 with 5-5 (pretty good though), and right after my placement games I won 2 games by winning 17LP and 16LP. After that I lost one game and 21LP, and afterwards a 17LP win

A Wild Ivern have won 262Lp at his first win, so maybe they changer something yesterday that fucked yp everything.

More from Gameplay

More by A Wild Poppy