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What if Kindred's mark died inside of Lamb's Respite?

Seiryuten·3/8/2019, 12:29:46 AM·38 votes·13,291 views

Just something to think about, the whole idea is that Lamb and Wolf have power over life and death, so what if when she cast Lamb's Respite, her mark could still die? Or, maybe Mounting Dread's third hit could execute them(and be the only power that could kill an enemy during Lamb's Respite - that way it requires proper skill timing and only works on a single target.)

If this worked for Marked target's, they would know they were marked before fighting and the counterplay would be to not stick around and count on Lamb's Respite to save them.

If it worked off of Mounting Dread, the counterplay would be to get out the moment you were hit with the active.

It would be a good zoning tactic for someone like an enemy Darius who wants to be in the middle of your low hp team as well.

21 Comments

Daddy ReTaric3/8/2019, 12:33:19 AM31 votes

It would be a nice interaction with her character design. It would make her passive choosing even more important. I support the idea.

True Lizard3/8/2019, 6:22:41 AM11 votes

Problem is they removed poppy's old ult for doing something along that like granted there are a lot of differences but it would be more effort for riot to balance then they are willing to put into this games balance.

The Trent3/8/2019, 7:45:07 AM8 votes

It'd be hard to make not op. It sounds like a free effortless dive every time kind ult is up. You could also just mark the enemy jungler for extremely easy drag/ baron steals. Make it so no one can kill baron, kill the enemy jungler, get the baron. Idk seems like it'd be a little too op to me.

Chembaron Yamada3/8/2019, 6:54:20 AM6 votes

It would be a massive buff for Kindred and they definitely don't need buffs right now. If this gets implemented, it needs to come with pretty big compensation nerfs.

Śhunpo3/8/2019, 4:00:35 AM4 votes

Kindred is already good enough as is. If you nerf her to go along with this change or changes then yes, it should be all good, but as it stands she's quite strong rn.

Ahri Body Pillow3/8/2019, 9:55:05 PM3 votes

Mark ad and autowin game?

GrReaper963/8/2019, 4:59:55 PM2 votes

I just want them to make Kindred an actual dual champion instead of a stacking champion...

SettDownShutUp3/8/2019, 7:21:37 PM2 votes

I absolutely love this concept. Thematically fits and gameplay wise it helps with her ultimates nasty tendency to save enemies.

Olath Quortek3/8/2019, 6:04:32 PM2 votes

This would be so badass... Prolly too good though heh... O.o

Seiryuten3/12/2019, 8:44:14 PM1 votes

I realized everyone is saying things like, "mark so and so and you win" but the mark would function the same as it does on live currently. You couldn't just mark one person for every fight.

Tremaursen3/8/2019, 12:14:21 PM1 votes

I don't think it could ever work. You either have it so the mark can only die to Kindred, or can just die to anyone. In either case it turns Kindred into the best 1v1 champ the game has ever seen, and in the worst case it also gives them the best teamfight engage in history as well. Where you to try and balance a tradeoff, perhaps by making it so Kindred can also die, then the ult would be absolutely horrible for anything besides niche teamfight usage. Trying to strike any sort of in between compromise would just add volatility to an overtly problematic idea to begin with.

Honestly Kindred just needs a new ult, the current one has never been easy to balance nor does it fit gameplay/lore wise

Segius3/8/2019, 3:42:33 PM1 votes

Trust me kindred does not need a buff rn, especially one that's as strong as this.

Solidair33/8/2019, 4:40:00 PM1 votes

While this idea is interesting, I feel like that might make it too easy for a Kindred to force a fight just to get a guaranteed stack. Additionally, I don't feel like Kindred need a buff right now. They're sporting both a decent playrate and winrate right now. I suppose if the meta shifts and they suddenly become difficult to play it might be an idea, but until then I really don't think they need work.

FlameHalbrdOkido3/9/2019, 3:59:48 PM1 votes

Kindred straight up needs a rework that included Wolf as a playable character, maybe make it so the enemy can chose which version they get, perhaps at the range they stick at (nearby=Lamb, distance = wolf) to really spec into their theme, then u make new abilities for Lamb and give Wolf a kit. Also they should only increase Lamb's strength against marked targets not every one and that will be easier to balance, finally they need to give Kindred a way to scale without having to kill enemies, something like Kayns way of scaling, she should get stronger for being near and damaging you, not only for killing you.

if they MUST keep the counter jg aspect they need to give her an ACTUAL way to counter jg, rn she doesnt have that at ALL. Ivern, Rek'sai, and Nunu are counter JGers (Maybe others too but those were specifically designed for it i believe) Kindred doesn't have the tools that they do to do the same job, so they shouldn't be pushing that job onto them.

She doesn't have a way to scout enemy territory to see of camps/enemies are there like Rek'sai, Ivern She doesn't have the tankiness like Ivern, Nunu, or Rek'sai She doesn't have super strong AoE dmg Nunu, or Rek'sai She doesn't have the strong CC like Ivern, Nunu, or Rek'sai She doesn't have an jg camp execute like Ivern, Nunu, or Rek'sai and they even CAP her E vs monsters....WAT?!

The best she's got going for her is her Q dash over walls

But if u ask me she just doesn't even have the same tools that Graves does, and he wasn't even meant for JG: His w can obscure other jungler's vision, his e can get you over walls without flash, and his q can kill aoe camps really fast. Even Kalista is a better counter JG, she can scout for the enemy with W, has constant Hops to kite anything, can jump over narrow walls, has a REALLY strong execute that can hit multiple targets.

but yeah while i LIKE the idea...i think it will be hard to balance to its not toxic, b/c the Kindred would just make the weakest person they could, so even if the marked champion can kill THEM its not likely to happen

Kindred needs WORK.