Climbing ladder question

Winters Dawn··0 votes·461 views

So I was placed into silver and while I'm no pro I've noticed a huge flaw. I go in and even if I'm doing decent, If my team or one or two players just "suck" then we lose. I lose, I get punished because my team isn't playing at their best... How can I possibly climb the ladder when at the first engagment both bot lanners die and then the enemy team just snowballs.. It's really putting a damp on me wanting to play but I really enjoy the game. any tips or advice??

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PDE5 Inhibitors2 votes

Dude, you are literally 18-83 over your last 11 games (all I wanted to count...your games are no better before that).

You have a KDA of 0.8. Anything less than 1 for a KDA is straight feeding.

Your K/D is 0.2. Zero point fucking two.

You are literally a feeding and you ruin the game for everyone else. Please stop trolling and just stop playing ranked.

"I go even", he says. Your 18 kills to 83 deaths prove otherwise. What a business major.

Winters Dawn1 votes

learn to read, i did not say that I "go even" I came here for help not for a troll like you. Learn some grammar

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

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Winters Dawn1 votes

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You did not come here for help. You say you do decent, but your team feeds and you want to know how to carry them. You do not do decent whatsoever. There are many times that you are actually THE WORST player on your team. You are causing your teams to lose. Go play bot games.

so much anger, you are the toxic players in this game that ruin it. QQ some more and let the others actually help me.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

And you are 18-83, yet blaming your teammates for "sucking" and making it so you can't carry.

LOLOLOL

jaymc11302 votes

To those in this thread being rude, shame on you. Cut it out, he's looking for advice, and he clearly needs it, be polite and if you are going to criticize do so constructively. Its not like the OP came in here and lambasted everyone and claimed he was the greatest, he needs pointers on how and what to improve, give him those, not demeaning responses.

swiftsnipe1 votes

i got placed in high gold and ended in diamond last season winning 5/9 games (slightly more than 50%). Overall you just need a positive win rate to climb ladder.

in my experience, in silver most games have 50+ kills/ deaths. Usually a few here and there aren't a big deal because players don't know how to push a lead. Just try to keep your own deaths low and play consitent. Wins will come :)

dEAdbUs1 votes

You need to play champions that can carry entire team. Less mistakes, more lead for a team.

Winters Dawn1 votes

exibit A: I was playing support, I got my adc a double kill down the line BUT while we were doing that mid laner (annie) kept dying by that lady with the crecent shaped blade (sorry can;'t remeber her name.. anyway she gave her 7 kills. Not intentionally, just stupidity. But at this point no one on my team could take her. even the semi fed garen we had up top. she could basically 2-3 shot the guy. And because of this annie I lose, I lose league points again; I get punished because of how this game lets ONE player snow balll the entie game. it frustrating, and I guess I just need to rant.

Neo Cyrus1 votes

Looking at your match history, you're the problem, trust me. You don't even belong in Silver. You're 9-20 against players who are like bots. Just keep playing and ignore the rank, only look to improve.

Winters Dawn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Neo Cyrus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fa6WN5cX,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-11-23T12:45:40.087+0000)

Looking at your match history, you're the problem, trust me. You don't even belong in Silver. You're 9-20 against players who are like bots. Just keep playing and ignore the rank, only look to improve.

I don't understand what you mean, In no game have i ever died 20 times. or do you mean my average k/d ?

Neo Cyrus1 votes

I mean your total ranked games. 9 wins 20 losses since the last time it updated. Every game you're doing poorly even in the games you win. Disregard the rank and just play, just look to improve.

jaymc11301 votes

The truth is this, unless you are master tier or challenger tier level skill wise climbing the ladder is extremely difficult to do from roles that don't have a large amount of map influence. Junglers and Mid laners pretty much decide the games in low level play and its tough to find reliably good players at any position until diamond level and even then its not as common as one would like until about diamond 2-3.

The most important thing to keep in mind when trying to climb is that unless you are very skilled it will be a grind, so focus more on improving at the game. The most common thing lacking in players that prevents them from climbing is pretty simple, game knowledge and understanding. I'm a pretty awful player in mechanical terms, but I manage to do fine in diamond purely because I have a good grasp on the game, how its supposed to be played, what matters when, how to gain and utilize advantages, and how to organize my teammates. I literally get by just on warding, being around the right spots at the right times, pressuring the right objectives, and communicating what all these things are to my teammates and keeping us all on the same page. Watch streams, watch pro play, talk to other high level players, and work on game fundamentals and the climbing part will take care of itself in time.

Additionally, everyone is aware at this point that the ranking and matchmaking systems are broken and utterly ineffectual, you can't let that frustrate you, mental toughness is important. They are just as broken for everyone else as they are for you. If all else fails practice hard and strive to improve and then, when you feel ready, make a smurf account and try one tricking (playing exclusively one champ in one role) your best champ. 99% of players who do this achieve a much higher rank much quicker than they did on their main accounts. I make a new smurf and one trick a new champ to diamond every season (although I fell short this season with my one trick eve account and only managed plat 1, sad face).

Basically it boils down to working at improving at the game and ignoring the fact you will be forced to play with idiots, morons, and generally awful players the vast majority of the time.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

All of what you said is true, however it doesn't apply to OP. He is 18-83 K/D over his last 11 games (all I cared to count. His previous games are just as bad). He is the type of player that makes what you said true, but for his teammates. They get unlucky and get him on their team and they lose because he likes to go 0-11 and buy 3 pairs of boots at 14 mins.

jaymc11301 votes

[{quoted}](name=PDE5 Inhibitors,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fa6WN5cX,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-11-23T15:40:38.797+0000)

All of what you said is true, however it doesn't apply to OP. He is 18-83 K/D over his last 11 games (all I cared to count. His previous games are just as bad). He is the type of player that makes what you said true, but for his teammates.

That's because the matchmaking and ranking systems are terrible and he is not playing at his correct skill level and neither are the vast majority of people he plays with. Silver is the ONLY tier in which bronze players will play with challenger players on smurfs. It sure as hell wasn't fair that I had to crush silvers and golds for 30 some odd games on a smurf while maintaining a 15-5-15 KDA and 75% win rate earlier this season one tricking my eve account. The system does not accurately rank players quickly, it takes FAR too long. And it works both ways, for and against. You can get lucky, you can get unlucky. The system is just flat out bad.

Now you can't use this fact as a crutch and say "its my teammates always!" That puts a player in a bad state mentally for climbing because part of the system, intrinsically, is that it does NOT work well very quickly and takes a large sample size. You have to maintain the right approach and attitude for that large sample size of games to see results, hence the advice in my post.

They get unlucky and get him on their team and they lose because he likes to go 0-11 and buy 3 pairs of boots at 14 mins.

Maybe he was playing sej, she needs a pair and her beastie needs 2 pairs. What? You expect them to go around with no foot protection? That would hurt their footy wooties.

1st Movement1 votes

It's ez just find a your good a set of champion your good at and spam them Worked for me I tilted to siv5 from siv3 and shot straight up to plat

Understand gameplay and mechanics ie watch streamers

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