are u trolling? buffing ad tryndamere?

KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ·8/17/2018, 4:33:59 PM·60 votes·14,318 views

We'll probably be buffing AD Trynd a bit in 8.17. We ended up hitting E CD because, when paired with CDR, his mobility wasn't sufficiently windowed. While at present only his AP builds build CDR we were confident it would also be a future issue whenever AD itemization let those builds grab CDR too. Wanted to address that issue as a result and then put some power in to help out AD Trynd based off where he ended up post nerf.

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42 Comments

Guzergus8/17/2018, 5:54:07 PM16 votes

That's actually a much needed buff for ad trynda, considering that he currently has 46% win rate because of the nerf. Really appreciate that.

By the way, yes, I play trynd and that's exactly why I know for sure ap build was cancerous and needed nerfs. Ad, on the other hand, didn't and is extremely weak right now.

Quiet Dude8/17/2018, 6:50:42 PM11 votes

TIL people still have trouble with Tryndamere

Bewitching Senna8/17/2018, 6:49:03 PM10 votes

Whats wrong with buffing Trynd? He is one of the least viable toplaners after this patch nerf. Only Akali is worse, but riot thinks she is fine, just requires high skill. Well more power to them, but everytime i see Akali in enemy team i'm expecting free win cause -1 useful team member.

pxYj06isjr8/17/2018, 10:51:34 PM7 votes

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OnlyVelKozOnly8/17/2018, 8:11:14 PM7 votes

Riot is actively killing off this game for whatever reason. It's extremely obvious after that Riot Pls video where they said jungle was where they wanted it and snowballing had been largely fixed.

They're just trying to get as much money out of it as they let it die.

Sire Hippington8/17/2018, 6:36:42 PM6 votes

While at present only his AP builds build CDR...

It's not like there are plenty of decent options, the only core AD-tryn needs is item 3153 + item 3031 , after that he's prety much free to take what ever he wants, like BC, Trinity, Ghostblade, ER or DD if he wants CDR

rtbf2216514128/17/2018, 6:21:19 PM6 votes

I'm waiting for people to realize the crit nerfs affected Tryndamere as well.

Not saying they are going the right direction.

Radiant Wukong8/18/2018, 12:43:54 AM4 votes

I've never seen a Tryndamere in any of my P5-D2 matches. He's really too easy to deal with unless he's a last pick. Literally almost every top laner counters him and he's only threatening as a jungler.

He's countered by 100% of the tank roster and by any fighter smarter enough to build Tabi + Randuin.

Even rushing a bami early game into sunfire. Frozen heart is magical against him, as well as thotnmail.

Iceborn works, too with certain champs.

Even pure damage/health champions can destroy him MonkeyKing Gnar Chogath JarvanIV Volibear Gragas with ninja tabi as their only armor item

RebeccaUCuber8/17/2018, 4:46:57 PM3 votes

Just Ban him until they understand he's fine <3

KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ8/17/2018, 8:37:42 PM3 votes

This is bad. It's almost as bad as the yasuo 100% R damage increase :/ if not worse .-. i don't even know anymore.

MorgManBasher8/18/2018, 3:46:08 AM3 votes

Yikes, people actually think Tryn is a good champion.

If you don't think he needs buffs I don't know what to tell you.

CppL8/18/2018, 5:39:38 AM2 votes

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/tryndamere/diamond hmmm looks fine to me...

Large Leader8/17/2018, 11:36:03 PM2 votes

I don't understand the "too much true damage" argument, because I don't think getting IE on Trynd is a good buy on him at all. IE doubles his crit chance, and Trynd usually wants multiple crit items (shiv and pd is a decent combo) for their passives and AS along with crit so he can split push with impunity. IE is too expensive and only gives raw AD, which is only part of what Trynd wants. A usual build for Trynd would go for AD/AS/CDR items so he can hit the cap early and spin to stick on targets, similar to AP but having a much later power-spike.

Complaining that Conqueror gives too much true damage is a completely valid statement, however. That being said, that's not necessarily addressing why Tryndamere - the champion - is an issue.

I don't think Tryndamere is in a healthy state, even though I enjoy playing him, although I don't want his identity as the unkillable Barbarian to be tossed out.

I wonder if his passive disabled crit chance and instead allowed him to get a guaranteed crit every x hits and the number of hits scaling 3 times (6, 11, and 16), might be better - something similar to Samuro from HotS. You would have no threat of early cheese kills while knowing when you need to play around his crit.

HungryAngry2SPP8/17/2018, 11:54:15 PM1 votes

I agree with RITO, he should get a buff. But just a little tweak like 5AD early or something, no more

Somber Rites8/17/2018, 7:52:12 PM1 votes

wtf, just nerf the AP bullshit, don't buff the OTHER broken part of his scaling.

Riot, stop.

Rabbi Shekelberg8/18/2018, 10:33:37 PM1 votes

0 IQ champ, -10 IQ balance team

Vlada Cut8/18/2018, 3:22:59 PM1 votes

Trynda should NOT get any ad buffs, he get's enough bonus AD from Conqueror.