Fiddlesticks Support

swanington·5/29/2017, 9:59:04 PM·4 votes·1,337 views

SO at first I was very against the whole "mage as support" thing. To me it was killing the support role champs completely with overwhelming force. But lately I've been thinking of other creative ways to move forward (besides I'm feeling a little Thresh'd out).

Was watching some champ spotlights for kicks and got to thinking Fiddle might make a great support.

  • silence (potentially both bot lane enemies)
  • fear (goodbye ganks)
  • heal
  • scary ult

has anyone tried this yet that could provide some feedback?

Fiddlesticks

12 Comments

Fondling Gems5/29/2017, 10:10:39 PM3 votes

It is an off meta support but isn't exactly a rare role for him. I have been seeing it fairly consistently since I started playing.

He generally goes for an E max and harasses (trying to get it to bounce between the two enemy laners between waves) He has a bit of trouble into champs that combo fast or have a lot of CC like Leona, but he can shut down a lot of adc's quite well, especially stuff like Lucian who needs to get close.

You should always run DFT and max E, though if you start losing lane hard it can be worth trowing more points into Q. For ulting I find it better to try and roam and gank with it than start fights bot lane.

If you ever get low health wait for a cannon and heal off of that, but don't kill it.

item 2301 / item 3092item 2049 are core items. item 3020 if you are winning hard, item 3158 if you go even or are behind.

Good items include: item 3116 item 3285 item 3151 item 3135

Basically you transition into a normal fiddlesticks in the mid-late game.

RogueWill5/30/2017, 4:29:50 AM2 votes

It works maxing E (the crow) then fear and last drain. You might want to get 2 points on Q early. (E, Q, W, E, Q, R). You probably want item 3092 for item but item 3302 can work as well by procing it with minions and your drain. One gives more HP lane sustain and the other gives you more poke potential and mana regen. I personally like shield because my E will without a doubt kill a few minions and adc tends to rage over it (yeah the 10cs I took in exchange of zone him of 3 or 4 waves is totally not worth it)

For items you want item 3116 and besides that you can build full damage (plus item 2049 ) Similar of how you build brand and zyra

Tobias Brackner5/30/2017, 3:51:59 AM2 votes

Fiddle is a strong support and I feel it's better than his Jungle role since he doesn't have to deal with all those Junglers who will straight out-duel him.

You wind up not using the Drain a lot but the rest of the kit is powerful enough that you don't really need it. item 2301 item 3116 item 3285 item 3020 item 3135 item 3089 item 3102

Jmman6/1/2017, 5:41:57 PM2 votes

item 3098 this is my first item. Then item 3673 /item 1028 at this point I see what the team is doing. sometimes I go item 3020 item 3136 or item 2301 or item 3190 depends on what is needed

favorite build it item 3102 item 2301 item 3135 item 3157 item 3020 item 3151 defensive protection build I use is item 3190 item 2301 item 3102 item 3047 item 3116 item 3135

fear is great for protection of the adc or whoever. save the speed up from support item to use to catch or ult people.

Learn how to make crows bounce to inflict the most damage.

I will level e,w,q,e,q (then either q or e depending) or e,w,q,w,w...

rules of fiddle support.

  1. Control wards are more important than sight stone starting off. Control ward will not go away unless you kill it. So its wont drop. This provides the best protection from ganks. Since you will be pushed with crows make sure waterway is warded and keep track of the jungle. (75 gold with worth not dying)

  2. F the adcs CS. now don't still them if you don't have too but if there is only one minion left and they are standing near it let the crow fly.

  3. F the adc's CS. Learn the "e" then "w" couple with minions near by. The drain will only get 2 ticks off. However, the crow will hit him 3 times. This is were you can take an adc or support hp from full to under half at lvl 2. (more if they don't run out of drain range.)

  4. Learn what abilities have "animations" with them so you dont lose your fear. Keep pinging them down with crows (try to focus which everyone can't heal.

  5. F the ADC's CS and kills. Once your 6. Make sure you have a control ward to place. get in a bush or over a wall. make sure its clear and get the double plus all the minions in one spell.

  6. Mid to late game. Depend on the amount that bot fed you play like an crazy fed ap or follow your adc. Use fear to stop the most op person on there team or protect ADC with it. Fear into a drain with item 3116 is enough for you adc to escape and kill them. Fear protects adc from assassins so use it. The only time to use fear late game is to kill the carry or protect yours.

  7. INVADE. Fiddle is retarded for a group invade. Crows will silence the flash and hit multiple targets. If only 2 are side by side one will be at 25% and the other at 40 to 50%. Crows are great for harassing the jungler at blue. WIll hit him 3 times and might steal. This will cause he to need help at 2nd camp or back.

  8. F the ADC's CS. Now the adc might be yelling about the 10 to 20 cs you "stole". But you carrying them is ok. Lets be honest. I say 40% of my games I totally carry a crappy adc. I'll be 5/1/5 and the adc will be 5/2/5. But he just last hit them when I did 90% of the damage to them.

I like fiddle support. I think he is good. Some match ups might be harder. But played correctly, (like if behind just wait till 6) I get to gold/plat every season with no a lot of games played. And if I didn't play with RL friends I would be high plat/diamond. Not saying I'm the best but I do pretty good with fiddle. I think I'm at a 55 to 58% win rate from season one to now with him.

MysterQ5/29/2017, 10:08:14 PM2 votes

I tried tank Fiddle support. It was the worst thing ever.

Haven't tried actual mage.

Aldapsayar6/12/2017, 10:43:15 PM1 votes

get trinket or control ward, clear bush and ult their asses. You job is done But seriously I take him when they have a lot of assassins, his q and e are huge cockblock for ganks. Also i rush zhonyas after support items for that sweet dive.

rework trundle5/29/2017, 10:35:52 PM1 votes

Isn't he played mainly as a support in KR challenger? We're probably at the phase "wait, is malzahar a support?" for fiddle.

Chønklord5/30/2017, 4:24:46 AM1 votes

season 4 called, they want their fiddle support meta back.

(Hint: this is called sarcasm; fid support has and most likely always will be, a "thing"; you're probably either too new or too low on the ranked ladder to know this).

hhaavviikk5/30/2017, 8:59:08 AM1 votes

support fiddle is back, support fiddle used to be a thing, they then nerfed his Q range which ended support fiddle, with that Q range reverted support fiddle is once again a great pick, instant unavoidable CC? yes please