Buff champions that cannot tank or do ad without doing no damage or not being able to one shot

avatarkai··3 votes·584 views

I have been playing Kled lately and I really love him, but playing him game after game I realized what is really stupid. Champions that require damage and defense. EX Camille Swain MonkeyKing Galio Gnar . The reason why I think they need a buff is because of the fact that they do OK damage on their own BUT the problem is in order to do more damage they need to survive so they build tanky (MR Armor) And the fact that they have no self sustain (in a sense, swain has some and so does gp with healing but im not gonna count it because of the fact its small, expect swain that requires a-lot of kills early to actually be tanky) And that if you built both you will cannot have enough of either because you need to split it up. If you are up against a-lot of top laners with these champions I showed then you are gonna die because all they can do is attack and the opponent will probably build Armor and still out damage you, so you build defensive? Wrong. If you do that you do no damage thus means its an endless cycle of kinda being us-less. So riot plz buff these champions so that they can be more viable. But now you may thing O WHY ARNT YOU SAYING THIS WITH EVERY FIGHTER TOP BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BUILD DAMAGE AND DEFENSE its because shouting reader that they have SUSTAIN. Darius Tryndamere Illaoi Fiora Renekton Garen Nasus Yorick These types of champions are in the SAME class as the ones above I mentioned but the reason why they are find is because they can heal while still doing a butt hurt load of damage. And last if your thinking o this guy is dumb as hell where are champions that cant heal but are top? (you mean these champs probUrgot Riven Yasuo Sion Rumble ) there fine as well because they have combos and damage and abilities to sherd through defense so they out damage enough to make the enemy think twice before engaging.

Proclaimer: Yes I know that these champions can be very op if fed, I have played these champions and kled or swain are very fun being fed because its awesome being this unkillable yordle that curses running around. Yes I know probably this will get salt in comments. Yes I know that maybe you thing "O this guy is such an idiot! He should just outplay everything, My username is XxshadowdragonlordninjaxX and im faker but listen im not faker, your probably better then me and why would you have that username?

(If you have any champs that you think are needing a buff that require defense and offense yet if you choose one the other becomes worthless and both together makes your champion even weaker say below)

If you read this far down I just want to say hi and thanks for reading [vlad-salute]

8 Comments

UnboundHades2 votes

So you want to buff them so they don't have to build damage to do damage?????

And you put gp of all champs on that list

avatarkai2 votes

No just so that they can be as viable as nasus or darius and what do you mean put gp on that list? yes gp is a powerful champion but hes not that good unless your some kind of out play mechanical god if your behind or get enough kills that your never behind or just farm all game

Infernape2 votes

Well GP is a mid/late game champion. He is item dependant. He shouldn't be rewarded with damage without building it.

avatarkai1 votes

yea but until then its hard I just want a small buff for them nothing to major that makes then op

Divewing2 votes

Those are the kinds of buffs that break champions.

GP is gated behind "I need 42 items to hit my powerspike", buffing him in any way that can potentially mitigate that is playing with fire, and not worth the risk

D Rabbit1 votes

I don't know that I really agree with a lot of the champs you mentioned, you really need to take a champs kit and what they are designed for into consideration.

For example, Galio is more of a midlane tank, that's where he's designed to be and that's where he's most often played. He's an anti-mage of sorts, his kit is designed to counter magic damage specifically, his lore has him as an anti-mage as well. Him underperforming a bit in a lane that's mostly AD isn't and shouldn't be surprising. There are other options for toplane tanks.

Similarly, Camille is fine too. She does solid damage, is super mobile, has good CC and has a bit of sustain on her W. Camille is all about picking your moments to trade and taking short favourable trades to take advantage of her shield. She doesn't need massive amounts of sustain, she can poke from range and engage safely with her shield, it's hard to win a trade against a Camille who's playing smart on a lot of champs. Camille also does fine damage while still being tanky, especially the later the game runs. As for Gnar, I don't know what to say, he's actually really strong right now and has tons of sustain already. Gnar can safely harass into most toplane match-ups in mini form (especially with Press the Attack) and he can duel most people while in mega form as well. His constant shifts between mini and mega and the fact that he heals whenever he makes the change gives Gnar great passive sustain, he does exactly what he's supposed to, harass from range while situationally becoming a decent frontline tank.

As for Swain, GP and Wukong, I don't really play any of them, so I don't know how they feel. Although Swain is up for a rework at the least, so he's in an odd spot right now anyway.

morakaano1 votes

I agree in a sense that the functions defined for the role, "tank", could be more widely supported. It's true that the new runes are helpful in a way to boost the tankiness and gaining a touch of heal/health but still.... I can't help noticing assasins and adc are flying off the chart late game rather than tanks functioning as they should. I could be wrong.

On a separate note, I really wish Riot would evaluate the turrets' sustabability; the TURRETS these days are so weak so adcs can easily melt them away in a few seconds when you don't pay attention- Poof! Gone! And add some more viable/fusion of tank items that could provide a various way to prevent 'some' dmgs from assasins/adcs better if used wisely.....

Oh well nothing will be pefect but just my two cents. Happy Season 8! [galio-happy]

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