Smurfing should be bannable

DidUrMomGood·Apr 29, 2019·11 votes·3,279 views

Smurfing should be a bannable offense, and here's why;

Before someone replies and says "I'm allowed to have 2 accounts blah blah" that's not what I'm talking about..

There are people who remain in low elo intentionally to feel good about themselves for various different reasons. I'm not entirely sure why this is a thing, but it is. I usually run into these people very late at night. Maybe they can't find a game in their elo at the time? Idk. But either way, intentionally losing a game to maintain a low elo on a "smurf" account, or playing in low elo just to ruin the game should be bannable. I don't understand the logic of encouraging this in ranked if in every other competitive game I play, this is a bannable offense.

Yeah this post may get a lot of hate, but honestly there are a lot more "smurfs" than you may realize ruining your ranked games and getting away with it. Weither it be with inting to keep an account low elo, or just crapping all over your team (or the enemies) bringing people to elos that they don't belong in.

15 Comments

MyrmironApr 29, 20192 votes

That is already banable, intentionally losing games is banable.

5050BSApr 29, 20191 votes

Smurfs do it all the time. They Soft Int to get around the ban bots

MyrmironApr 29, 20192 votes

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Smurfs do it all the time. They Soft Int to get around the ban bots

So ban all smurfs because of the actions of a few?

Project XayahApr 29, 20192 votes

Quick tip here; If you don't mean "smurfing should be bannable" don't say "smurfing should be bannable" because, and let's be completely honest here, you're not talking about smurfing, you're talking about intentionally losing to get into low elo (which, believe it or not, are not the same thing).

Is that clear enough?

roughvanApr 29, 20191 votes

I don't think there is a lot of people that do that, but i've seen it in flex, a guy who keeps trolling games for his personal "fun", he waits until he is with a player who is in promos and intentionally wants to lose the game. How do i know this? well he said in chat that he loves ruining promos for other players.

I agree that they should be banned and they would be banned if the system could detect such things.

Sending support ticket doesn't help, i've already tried that.. They'll say how reporting in game is the best way and how you should continue being a good teammate while they'll do nothing even if you give the exact timestamps or tell them about the chat logs. Yet people who spoiled avengers endgame get banned by a support ticket, real priorities they have here... Also why is there a category tp report players if they'll do nothing? so i could report movie spoilers?

So there's literally nothing you can do about it outside of making a reddit thread and hoping it gets on the front page, that's when they'll react.

Exin0Apr 29, 20192 votes

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I don't think there is a lot of people that do that, but i've seen it in flex, a guy who keeps trolling games for his personal "fun", he waits until he is with a player who is in promos and intentionally wants to lose the game. How do i know this? well he said in chat that he loves ruining promos for other players.

I agree that they should be banned and they would be banned if the system could detect such things.

Sending support ticket doesn't help, i've already tried that.. They'll say how reporting in game is the best way and how you should continue being a good teammate while they'll do nothing even if you give the exact timestamps or tell them about the chat logs. Yet people who spoiled avengers endgame get banned by a support ticket, real priorities they have here... Also why is there a category tp report players if they'll do nothing? so i could report movie spoilers?

So there's literally nothing you can do about it outside of making a reddit thread and hoping it gets on the front page, that's when they'll react.

I dont know if there are many "true" smurfs but there is still unsolved problem of baned players jumping into new accounts that should be solved.

RagnaveilApr 29, 20191 votes

At the same time, that issue wont be solved until matchmaking gets fixed.

Exin0Apr 29, 20191 votes

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At the same time, that issue wont be solved until matchmaking gets fixed.

At least they shoul try wipe MMR after season. It seem that effect of riot refusing wipe mmr after seasons people are stacking mmr and not effectively lowering mmr making them stucked in "elo hell" facing unfair games over their skill until they loose enough mmr to be put in fair game which give them enough mmr to be put in another BS game. Sorry for english :D

roughvanApr 29, 20191 votes

This is a free game, you won't ever be able to stop banned players creating new accounts. Usually they only need like 2-3 champions like jax/kayle, it doesn't take much for them to be able to get to their previous rank and doesn't require them to use money.

Exin0Apr 29, 20191 votes

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This is a free game, you won't ever be able to stop banned players creating new accounts. Usually they only need like 2-3 champions like jax/kayle, it doesn't take much for them to be able to get to their previous rank and doesn't require them to use money.

You still can have mechanism to prevent banned player to create account and have game free to play like use credit card credentials in account creating process, game is years beyond player base gathering part and riot should make effort to create better enviroment for current players and not outright hostile and toxic. Also new players are thrown into cesspool of low level accounts composed mainly by banned toxic trolls and smurfs

roughvanApr 29, 20191 votes

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You still can have mechanism to prevent banned player to create account and have game free to play like use credit card credentials in account creating process, game is years beyond player base gathering part and riot should make effort to create better enviroment for current players and not outright hostile and toxic. Also new players are thrown into cesspool of low level accounts composed mainly by banned toxic trolls and smurfs

You can't as in a lot of countries it is against the law for them to use these to tie accounts with. Also do you think anyone smart would put their credit card on a game? all credentials for league would be saved, meaning it could get hacked. How would it work for below 18 players or ones without credit card? If it is driver's license, not everyone has that either. If it is social security number like Korea, there are accounts sold there too, there are countless people who never play or will ever play league that can make accounts just to sell them. So there's literally no solution to this.

If you didn't know system detects when you are smurfing, if you go 10/0 for like 3 first pvp games on a new account it will start placing you against and with other smurfs. There's MMR for normal games too, for example you can play a lot of normals while being good at the game and only play with diamond/master/challanger players there, it all comes down to how many games you win.

Exin0Apr 30, 20191 votes

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You can't as in a lot of countries it is against the law for them to use these to tie accounts with. Also do you think anyone smart would put their credit card on a game? all credentials for league would be saved, meaning it could get hacked. How would it work for below 18 players or ones without credit card? If it is driver's license, not everyone has that either. If it is social security number like Korea, there are accounts sold there too, there are countless people who never play or will ever play league that can make accounts just to sell them. So there's literally no solution to this.

If you didn't know system detects when you are smurfing, if you go 10/0 for like 3 first pvp games on a new account it will start placing you against and with other smurfs. There's MMR for normal games too, for example you can play a lot of normals while being good at the game and only play with diamond/master/challanger players there, it all comes down to how many games you win.

name three countries. Btw other games was able deal with multiple accounts so there is no reason for Riot dont do it is just matter of how. Also there are others solutions for example HWID.

5050BSApr 29, 20191 votes

Smurfs in Rank are not different then cheating. Its boosting any Friends you play with and any non-friends on your team.

Jayce Account 35Apr 29, 20191 votes

So how do you assume to detect somones smurfing? "Wow this guys really good at the game, he must be smurfing! Ban him!". Is that your logic?

1shopmrbeastFeb 27, 20201 votes

here is why smurfing should be banable if league is considered a sport yes E sport still a sport it has the same play level as that of other sports a chalenger for argument stakes would be a all american college level player where a bronze would be a back yard 10 year old playing. in any other sprort if oyu got caught in a league you dont belong you woudl get a life time ban as it woudl be justifiied why not in esports also