Jayce overnerfed

Sui Iro·Dec 16, 2014·6 votes·1,707 views

Those PBE nerfs are way too much, and are unnecessary, I just went on the PBE and I couldn't 3 shot an advanced bot Veigar with full build and a fury pot or whatever that's called, that's how bad it is, I'm not exaggerating. Basically Hyper Charge feels absolutely useless (Nobody should level it second if these nerfs go through) until you have a lot of AD and even then it's not good enough damage considering you have to be at 550 range to use it while being incredibly squishy. Not to mention IE got nerfed in the same PBE patch, that alone should lower his power a bit as well. Sure. he has really strong poke but he has to use two abilities to make use of it and if it misses he has to wait way more time than other champs to make use of it again (Ziggs/Ori/Nid) and it doesn't shred through frontlines like other types of poke. He has no ultimate, no mobility and pretty short range(Bar gated Q), the usage of most of his abilities in teamfights is limited since he itemizes full AD and can't dive without exploding due to his lack of escapes. The last nerf was necessary since it was silly that he downright had 2.5 as up pretty much all the time without any downsides but this one nerf is just a gutting to his damage mid and late game while the previous nerf hurt his early tear stacking pretty badly and made Jayce players have to use Hyper Charge sparingly. He is no stronger or no more cancerous than most of the other big mid picks. He has no mobility, his waveclear while good has to be aimed and is more resource/cooldown limited than others and can't stall games forever like others. If he falls behind his utility is kinda limited. A missed skillshot can prove fatal and a jungle gank can just ruin his lane unlike a ton of other champs. He's not weak by any means but I feel like these nerfs are unnecessary and just go too far, if these nerfs go through he'll never be picked competitively again and in soloq he'll be outclassed by pretty much anyone.

Sure some of you might think it's annoying how he's so popular in soloq and how you have to face them often but no champion deserves a complete gutting like this no matter how much you hate them.

14 Comments

Fed by Snu SnuDec 16, 20143 votes

I'm going back to levelling E second after the nerfs. And that says a lot because has fairly weak gains to level currently.

The nerf is completely uncalled for. Playing against Jayce is mostly a skill match up for most champions and no serious players would ever claim "oh, I lost to Jayce because he is Jayce alone".

There's so many things you can do about him, but people will just ask for gutting instead.

Akali, Ahri, Fiora will gut him in lane unless misplayed. Vi will gut him from the jungle. Any hard engage can screw him hard. Shyvanna can soak his poke for days from as fast as the mid-game with only a chain vest. etc.

Leti the YetiDec 16, 20142 votes

Idk how to feel about Jayce part of me think's hes broken simply looking through his abilities he has a ridiculously strong poke for days and then he can all in ur ass after he successfully pokes you once at the same time I havent lost to a Jayce just cuz he was Jayce... Now I lost to Fioras cuz they were fking Fioras ;l just felt that alot of Jayce I went up against werent very skilled and Jayce broken kit did not compensate for their lack of skill

Friends and Cousins and Friends who play Jayce tell me hes a broken piece of freelo shit tho

AkumuDec 16, 20142 votes

Ya Riot strikes again with unnecessary heavy handed nerfs. They like to utterly destroy champions with nerfs rather than just making them weaker.

Eve The RipperDec 16, 20142 votes

Can't tell if...serious?

Not being able to 3 shot an enemy who is presumably not gimped means the nerfs were too heavy-handed?

J EpsteinDec 16, 20142 votes

Jayce needs nerfed cause hes a super long ranged champ, and a super all in your face champ. lol no logic there, needs to be one or the other,

Knight DevoutDec 16, 20141 votes

500 range. Super long range.

J EpsteinDec 16, 20141 votes

Shock blast- 1470 range. nice try though

Knight DevoutDec 16, 20141 votes

Which is a skillshot, and lategame is absorbed by the frontline.

Sui IroDec 16, 20141 votes

His super long range skill requires the usage of two skills on a champ that is gated by mana and it has a pretty big cooldown in comparison to other champs. He's a also a no ult champion.

I just thought of a better nerf that won't gut his damage overall, just make it so when Hyper Charge is active his critical damage goes down by a % (I'd say 50%) so if he crits normally he'll do 150% damage and if he has IE he'll do 200%, it should make it so in lategame he won't be able to instagib anything but it shouldn't make him completely useless.

Reynard the ƒoxDec 16, 20141 votes

Are they really nerfing my main? AGAIN? I literally might cry.

Link please?

Fed by Snu SnuDec 16, 20141 votes

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/12/1215-pbe-update.html

Jayce Hyper Charge (Cannon W ) attacks now deal 60/70/80/90/100% damage from 70/85/100/115/130%

Quite a strong nerf. Again. As soon as he became playable once more.

I might do the math and see if leveling Q-E-R-W is worth it more after these nerfs.

Dunky McDunkfaceDec 16, 20141 votes

Agreed. Jayce main here. Jayce needed a nerf, not something like this though.

D1rtFarmerDec 16, 20141 votes

riot likes manaless champs is why

stealthfox94Dec 16, 20141 votes

Too bad I was actually going to start playing him again, I actually really liked Jayce in early S4 when he was considered trash. IDK why Jayce got nerfed before Akali. To be honest though I didn't use his W all that much nor did I build IE. I built him more like an AD caster and mostly used his W to take down towers.