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Meep Man5 votes

If there would be 4 champions I would want with a new Juggernaut like mechanic on their kit, it would be:

Caitlyn Quinn Twitch Varus

These are the ADCs I want updated the most, although Im pretty sure MF is going to replace Varus in this list. Also, by Jugg mechanic, I mean some large powerful mechanic in their kit that they play around. Mainly since these champions have nothing like that right now. They have their ultimate, but no "This is what makes me feared ALL the time." You don't get that same fear effect against Twitch that you get against Vayne or even Graves.

Big Lincoln5 votes

Are you sure? Because when it's late game and Twitch is MIA, I'm pretty sure I start panicking

Kem De La Krem1 votes

true but he is currently outshined by many other adcs

Eievu1 votes

I disagree. the only problem twitch has/have is laning phrase. Twitch outshine most adc during mid game if he gets his core items.

item 3153 item 3006 item 3086 / item 3046

Kem De La Krem1 votes

actually i find PD makes twitch weaker in the mid game if he went even or only got a kill or 2 in lane i feel that yoummuitem 3142 attempts to solve the problem but it still doesn't solve the issue

AsReelAsItGets1 votes

I feel he same why but I hate rushing Bork and Ghost blade all the time because it's putting Twitch at a useless spot for too long with the whole game phase. It works but I really prefer a solid Attack speed with out the needs to have to press another button. T think the Ghost blades active should only be for food speed and let the AS be active all the time. but that's just my opinion because I don't want to have to press another button.

Jacknife2 votes

Yeah, but late game bulkiness makes sure twitch can't really kill you. He's AA focused and has the ability to jump you, but has very few strong steroids to buff his damage (Q buffs his dps, W helps get stacks faster, E is nothing more than a "nuke", and R only gives a slight AD buff). The only way he has of getting through health, the main bulk stat, is item 3153, which only works if he can auto you down for a good 5 seconds, then E you for the remaining, what, 300 health? If he's actually trying to be an assassin and get picks, it won't end well for him unless he goes for a squishy. Target the enemy ADC? All the popular ADC's right now are pretty good at bursting practically anything, so if you pop up too close they'll counter damage you, pop up too far and they'll just walk away since he has no way to really stick (ironic considering all the sticky stuff he probably has). Target the mid laner? If it's an assassin, lol gl. A mage? It might work if you really get them by surprise, since they have no way to survive outside damage.

Way I see it he should be a slippery, stealthy dps god, and he was for awhile, but with all the changes to the game in the past year, along with all nerfs he's gotten, hes fallen flat. He just needs a few changes here and there to make him really stand out.

Big Lincoln1 votes

problem is he's kind of badly designed

when he does well he pops out of stealth and will kill most squishy targets before they can react to his presence

if he falls behind then hes useless until late game, which means he'll probably lose if his team can't stall

could definitely use a rework, lowering his burst in favor of sustained damage and constantly slipping in and out of fights

Meep Man1 votes

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Are you sure? Because when it's late game and Twitch is MIA, I'm pretty sure I start panicking

Sure. When its late game and you cant see him. But Im talking about the entire game. Besides his Support and turret, what are you fearing from him while in the laning phase? You arent actually scared of him or what he will do like other ADCs. Even Kog'Maw has some fear in there due to his high early poke range. Twitch just has no poke and no quick burst combo to make himself feel scary. Then you shift into Middle Game and he gets ok, but there still isnt one thing you fear! When I say fear, I dont mean "I cant see him, he could be anywhere!", because that could be applied to anyone. Im talking about that feeling of fear you get when they suddenly appear. With Twitch, unless he is fed, its just kind of "Oh, we need to get away from him a little bit or KILL HIM!" Thats not fear, thats thought process. Theres never a moment until late game when he can critical strike a whole team (which Jinx can do without a coop down) that Twitch feels scary and the reason he is scary can only be applied to him. Thats it, Twitch needs his own unique reason for you to fear him.

Azteryz1 votes

there are many adcs and they might only do about 4 just like the juggernaut reworks so who knows ;o

Kem De La Krem1 votes

true so true they did mention it was going to be somewhat similar to juggernauts so yeah maybe 4

Unlucky Number71 votes

they mentioned lucian and graves cause theres overlap between the two.

BeMyFriendPlease1 votes

Nb4 vayne is given more true damage as a ranged juggernaut because "her early game and short range fit as a ranged bruiser"

Celeste Benal2 votes

The rage would consume the forums in a giant ball of satanic hell-fire.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

Twitch item 3031 item 3046 all twitch needs to assassinate any squishy lol. that attack speed an ad steriods

Kem De La Krem1 votes

yes once he gets his ie but its an item u get after bortk and pd but by then its 60 to 70% possible u will need an last whisper instead. Additionally that power spike happens late but the mid game(where twitch has almost no power at times) is where most teams push to win in solo q

Daedalus8711 votes

I imagine they are really going to be focusing on the caster carries.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

I really don't think Twitch is in need of changes beyond maybe some tweaks to his Passive. Primarily, I'd like to see Riot look into Varus Quinn MissFortune and Caitlyn.

The likes of Twitch Draven and Urgot will always slip in and out of favour depending on the meta and the balance of their lane counters.

Twitch has a niche. He can perform very well in said niche. MissFortune, as an example, on the other hand HAD a niche but had said niche all but completely removed.

Kem De La Krem1 votes

true do true but draven is always good and urgot was good for a while but he is getting a rework. But maybe they will tweak his passive who knows. Meanwhile rito <,<

ABlueQuaker1 votes

I honestly believe Urgot is in a good spot. His only issue is that he's forced to farm with Q, especially in 2v2 lanes against longer range ADCs, because his range is so low but then mana management becomes an issue.

item 3158 item 3042 item 3078 item 3035 item 3072 or item 3153 and a situational item and he's actually a really potent AD Carry. Sorta like Ezreal or Lucian except he trades CC and Utility for Mobility.

If anything, Urgot just needs a Visual Update to clean up his animations as well as 500 Basic Attack Range. Even Jayce has 500 Range in Cannon Form.

Kem De La Krem1 votes

Riot has stated he shall be getting a rework

ABlueQuaker1 votes

That makes me sad.

Faded Lich1 votes

e_e Leave my MF out of this.....her ult changes and some other small tweaks is all she really needs.....

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Said no Season 3 MF player ever.

Faded Lich1 votes

I'm sorry, we're in season 3? Wow I didn't realize. Just because you don't understand Mf's current strengths and weaknesses doesn't mean you get to auto-rework her. sorry.

P.S: It might also be because I'm a Season 2 Mf player.

P.P.S: well Late Season 1 into Season 2 as it turns out after looking up transition dates.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

You're level 28...

Don't tell me it's a smurf either. People don't buy Ultimate Skins on their smurf accounts.

Faded Lich1 votes

My first account was back in 2011. Got banned. took a break. So, sure. You can call this my smurf. It can also be called my main. To coin an old term, I've forgotten more than you've learned chances are. Hell, look around on the boards. There is more than enough evidence and conversations that I'm an Old GDer around.

Any other questions?

Teslablade1 votes

Is it just me, or does Twitch seem to be out of place in League? His aesthetic just seems off.

Kem De La Krem1 votes

na he aint :p

Teslablade1 votes

Just checking.

CoolKnightST1 votes

Twitch is actualy not that bad right now. His lane fase is painfull but ones you get past that he will perform just like any other marksmen. The most anyoing part is that it's really hard to snowball out of him since you already will have the weakest 2v2 from a botlanes.

Kem De La Krem1 votes

maybe he isnt but idk im am only a gold elo player so there are things i dont know about solo q and stuff but i do wonder if riot has any plans for him in the near future we just have to wait and see

Kem De La Krem1 votes

Man :/ Riot didnt notice the post :/ i really wanted to know about his status D: oh well :/ guess ill make another later on :/

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