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Jungle monsters 2 stronk, restricting creativity

Psykiss·12/11/2014, 4:21:33 PM·3 votes·877 views

Ever since 4.20, squishy champions haven't been able to survive in the jungle. Most junglers are somewhat durable fighters, so I understand that balancing has to focus on that aspect of the jungle, but the increase to damage the jungle deals makes it even harder to jungle with a squishier champion.

What i'm trying to say here is that making the jungle stronger will make many non-meta champions completely incapable of Jungling. This makes it difficult for players to experiment and be creative.

A few examples of champions who, previously viable, now struggle immensely in the new jungle:

  • Akali Akali
  • Azir Azir
  • Blitzcrank Blitzcrank
  • Evelynn Evelynn
  • Fizz Fizz
  • Graves Graves
  • Jayce Jayce
  • Karthus Karthus
  • Katarina Katarina
  • Kayle Kayle
  • DrMundo Mundo
  • Orianna Orianna
  • Riven Riven
  • Talon Talon
  • TwistedFate Twisted Fate
  • Twitch Twitch
  • Vayne Vayne
  • Zed Zed

Please reply if you agree or disagree with my list.

I am not complaining about the new jungle being hard, I simply believe that there should be room for creativity, and the new jungle simply doesn't have that. I'm not as experienced as Riot is, so I'm sure they know what they are doing. But if all of this was intentional on their part, what is their goal? Are they trying to make "Jungler" into a more defined role? Riot has always seemed to love player creativity, but why are they now restricting it?

Please feel free to reply if you disagree. This is just my observation, and I want to be proven wrong.

3 Comments

Zanathax12/11/2014, 4:31:11 PM3 votes

You can still jungle with many of those champs. It simply requires nearly perfect knowledge, a great deal of skill, and the support of your teammates. In the tournament last weekend, one of the pro junglers used Twisted Fate as a jungler and completely dominated with him. He did it to lure the opponent mid into picking Leblanc vs one of her counters, but that's the point of a ban/pick phase.

Everyone was pretty surprised the TF's enemy jungler didn't invade the crud out of him, though, tbh, TF did a lot of ganking. Gold card plus Q and AAs at 650 range make it pretty hard to run away from him. That said, I don't think most junglers would survive the first camps trying it.

Bears Dont Care12/11/2014, 6:06:43 PM2 votes

They dont want non jungle designed champs in the jungle. Evelynn is the only one tjat can be argued for in that list.

SquizzlyBob12/11/2014, 6:04:20 PM1 votes

Ive mained jungle ever since i started playingleague, so i got bored with jungle champs and started using champs that would regularly go top or mid and actually be as viable or sometimes even more viable than actual jungle champs, but since the beta thats all but a memory nowitem 3070