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How the fuck does anyone get out of bronze by themself?!??!

Benesmash··5 votes·1,752 views

When I play with friends we destroy the game bronze or silver. 25 minutes or less almost every time and I have the best score on the team. When I play by myself I can destroy their mid lane, but my bottom will still be 0-9 even with constant ganks and pressure.

Yeah, I have my bad games every now and then, but it's no where near as bad as I get on my team consistently. It's like I can't play this game by myself without losing 80% of the time. Does anyone here thats bronze or silver want to group? I don't have very many people on my friends list. It really makes me want to stop playing this game because if I don't play with friends I get feed EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. The games I get where no one feeds we win with complete domination. I don't want to stop playing, but if I can only win with friends there is no use.

EDIT: i'm done and sold my account to my friend for $20. I just lost a game where an alistair tower dived 3 times in a row and when we said "don't be so aggressive" he said "gg toxic. all muted im feeding gg."

37 Comments

PrometheS3 votes

by being better... it's actually really easy if you deserve it

Wolfbanez121 votes

your in s3 good for you its not over till after g2 thats the hole after that its seems like its smooth sailing if your good enough

Neo Cyrus3 votes

I reached high Plat MMR last season and I've never ended a season lower than Gold... I can confirm what you're saying is absolute nonsense. Single handedly carrying doesn't get difficult until the players are good enough that you can't outright stomp them the majority of the time, that doesn't happen until high Plat.

Stomping them straight to Plat is not difficult for a skilled player, you're not going to encounter players with relatively decent mechanics or decision making on a regular basis until the top of Plat.

Benesmash1 votes

I hear people say this all the time, but I think it's an exaggeration. When your ADC, top, and jungler are all 1-10, 3-12, and 0-9 it's not possible at that point. I play mid lane mages and destroy, but as a mage, I can't 1v5.

I play with my friend that is plat II in normal and I asked him myself if he thinks i'm a bronze player. Take in to account, this guy will tell me I suck as I have seen him do it to our other friends. Also, last season he was Diamond III. He said no way, i'm atleast a gold III player. When it's LITERALLY me vs the entire team because all my team wants to do is farm jungle/lanes and I still kill 3 of them by myself i'd say I don't deserve to get the team mates I get.

If I was getting stomped on every game and not contributing I wouldn't make a fuss, but when i'm continually lauded by the other team saying i'm the only reason we stood a chance, there is something wrong there. I can give myself constructive criticism and look at my mistakes to improve. What I can't do is carry my team every single game.

I can't 1v5 while the only tower down is in my lane. I can't do anything when someone on my team gets shit on in lane and goes afk. I can't win the game when there is 4 mid trying to push the tower, but being stopped by me alone, while my teammates are stalling their lane and farming jungle. If you tell me you can 1v5 the entire game I would love to see it.

Also, I know people diss this comment immediately, but i've played dota for 12 years. I am very familiar with when to engage, pull out, and go for the tower dive. At one point, I was 5k mmr in dota so it is familiar in a way. I know that doesn't directly translate to league because the champs in this game do require a certain level of skill, but everything else is the same. I am very familiar with the champs I main and know their limits.

I'll use brand as an example. Fairly easy champ to use. I can throw my pillar and an immediate fireball to stun and pull of a combo for an instant kill. I feel like my mechanics are there with certain champs. Like I said before, when I play with my friends we don't lose. ever. I don't get carried either because I usually have the best score on the team and get an S.

Neo Cyrus4 votes

You are delusional. I'm not reading past that first paragraph. Any player with any semblance of skill can 1v9 a Bronze game. I tried to help, don't accept it and stay in your fantasy world if you want.

Benesmash1 votes

Show me. Seriously, show me you can win against three of my friends.

ShotHottie1 votes

I agree with you (EVEN THOUGH IM NO WHERE NEAR YOUR ELO) I have turned a game in which we only had 7 kills to their 32 and we ended up winning and matching their kills.

I think the truth of the matter is, they can get as many kills as they want. But, if they fail to secure objectives and mess around until the great equalizer we call "lvl 18" the game can be won.
Yes, its hard. But if you have SKILL you can do it.

I've only been able to pull it off once. Still working on the skill part. But isn't that what Bronze is for?

Handin Out Naps3 votes

You get out of bronze by learning how to play the game... literally.

Benesmash1 votes

Read my edit.

EDIT: i'm done and sold my account to my friend for $20. I just lost a game where an alistair tower dived 3 times in a row and when we said "don't be so aggressive" he said "gg toxic. all muted im feeding gg."

How the fuck am I suppsoed to win with that? That is literally most of my games. I don't even think faker could win on my account.

Drehirth1 votes

I couldn't stop laughing at that entire situation lool. Sorry to hear that though :l

Dreadlocks2 votes

Get really good and you can do it :)

Benesmash1 votes

Sometimes I can beat a team of 5 by myself. Most of the games I win are because i'm carrying the shit out of them, but I don't want to play those champs every single game. If I play renekton or draven there is a good chance i'm going to carry the game solo, but I get bored playing those champs.

Like the last game I played brand. I destroyed their mid lane and kept constant pressure on them. Before they started grouping as a team and pushing mid I was 8-1 and I ended up with 17-10 before the 3 garbage time deaths. I was the only reason we didn't lose in 20 minutes, but I can't keep that up when it's me versus a team of 5.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Then only play ranked when you feel like playing those champs. Also, the biggest thing about climbing is consistency, so as long as you can consistently out perform, you will climb.

Benesmash1 votes

That's no fun though. Why should I only play 2 different champs when I want to play ranked?

It seems like the people who feed consistently need to be placed with other feeders.

Dreadlocks1 votes

I only really play 2 champs in ranked... still fun for me xD

Drehirth2 votes

two most important things of climbing out of bronze/silver

  1. Get better at csing (half of it will be knowing when to not waste time running around doing nothing, and half will be actually getting the last hit)

  2. learn to abuse your lead more. Try to turn kills into objectives taken. Most games in bronze-silver a team will pick up some kills, then go back, or go farm random jungle creeps instead of getting towers/building up dragons.

those two things alone will carry you to gold

Benesmash1 votes

I'll admit sometimes I slack in the objectives taken, but when I do my team goes back to base or tries to dive the last person alive and dies. Maybe i'm in a select pool or something. I do flame at my team mates for feeding a lot sometimes. I don't even say anything bad just the usual "why would you dive that and not take the tower?" followed by "report bene for being toxic, gg game over"

VengefulMarv2 votes

I've carried out of bronze three times. This season I started in B3 and now I'm in S3. It's doable.

Wolfbanez121 votes

not saying it not doable just saying its down to random luck now

Benesmash1 votes

Were you playing with a team or solo?

VengefulMarv2 votes

Solo.

Jabberwöcky2 votes

I tend to goof off too much by playing random champions, but if you look at my mains, especially from last seasons win rates, if i only played those i would be way higher.

Anyhow, to get out of bronze, you need to play for YOURSELF, you got to carry EVERYONE. Remember that everyone is equally as bad on your team, as they are on the other team. You need to find that ONE guy on the other team, that is the weakest link.

You can figure this out by the guy who is the chatter box in chat, who types alot, cusses, whines, tilts. Kill him. Dive him. Murder him.

You need to be roaming and ganking as a jungler at level 2-3. XinZhao Elise Hecarim Pantheon Vi Volibear

Play easy champs that can be abused. (not saying skill wise, saying easy to understand and pull off escapes/kills). Zed Ahri Malphite Malzahar Chogath Fizz Quinn Tryndamere Yasuo

If your stuck in support, get CC. Always CC. Annie Morgana Leona Alistar Nautilus . CC will let you lock someone down, so someone else can get the kill.

No matter what, do not trash talk to your team, dont tilt anyone, dont give in, half the time someone will act tough and tell you to STFU or something and end up feeding.

Remember to ward. Even if that ward doesnt show anyone, that means that jungler is NOT in the area where your ward is, meaning that area is safe, and vice versa obviously.

Pick your fights. Getting a kill by tower diving, and dying, giving them a kill (1-1 trade) is NEVER worth. Making them go B, miss XP and gold, so you can go back and buy a better item while they cant, IS worth.

Remember to do call outs, saying someone used their flash, ult, ignite, exhaust, heal, TP, are all very valuable to know.

Lastly, dont do what i do, play random champions, find a few you can learn in normal, that you enjoy, then abuse them in ranked.

Benesmash1 votes

That's all good advice and I usually do that, Like my last actual game, I was destroying so hard 4 of them were camping mid and trying to push the tower. I was holding them all back by myself. I told my team to push the other lanes, but all they did was stall the lane and farm. We didn't have one tower at that point. I took the only 2 towers by myself by getting a double kill and pushing while my team just sat in lane, farmed, and jungled.

Wolfbanez121 votes

you cant anymore the dynamic que made it a gamble now and its unfair to solos and they still havent given us solo que which the moment they do i know alot of people giving up on dynamic que to going back to playing solo and having a chance to win or make the win by their own decisions and not the random group each team has.

Benesmash2 votes

It's fucking ridiculous. I've been bronze I promos twice and I went back to bronze 5 because of losing streaks that I couldn't control.

Wolfbanez121 votes

i main support im posting on another account but i know your pain i climed to b1 from b5 and now back to b 2 froma 10 game losing streak not all of them where the randomness but after every game i ask who is group and i ask if they are smurfs and most of the time they admit they are smurfs carrying a friend or a booster getting paid to do it and dynamic que is supporting this kind of crap.

Benesmash1 votes

At the very worst I hold my own and go even. Maybe like 5 games this season i've thrown games and I have 200 games in bronze lol

xl Kirito lx1 votes

Annie.

Benesmash1 votes

I don't like playing annie. She's boring to me and if I have to play a champ I don't like just to leave the morons I don't want to play that game. I want to enjoy the time im playing.

Kaleidos1 votes

I made it out of Bronze with minimal problems from my random teammates, in fact most times I've had to match up with randoms in Bronze over the years I found that they're not really any different than the randoms found in any other Rank.

Wolfbanez121 votes

you got lucky

Kaleidos1 votes

4 years of consistent observations doesn't equate to getting "lucky". I rarely ever have had problems with randoms in my games, and I've played in every season barring last season where I took a break from League.

Wolfbanez121 votes

and its down to who has the better group this year so yes lucky.

Kaleidos1 votes

Except that's not unique to Bronze, the "Bronze is hell and all players there are bad and I'm stuck here because of them" attitude perpetuates a myth. I've played across most of the different Ranks, and the randoms don't change, they stay fairly consistent. It's one thing to complain about lost games because of randoms, it's another thing entirely to assume that your experience with them will change just because you climb, because it won't.

At the end of the day your team does a lot better, regardless of how good each individual is, when you don't fall into the common traps of playing with randoms. Don't give in to bait, snip any arguments in the bud, and keep your team's morale up with positive reinforcement, and don't be afraid to give someone a boost in confidence by being the fall guy by apologizing for certain events even if they're not your fault and if someone's doing badly chastise yourself in chat over mistakes to help them keep their mind off it.

If you know how to handle your randoms they generally stay quite pleasant and they fulfill their purposes as teammates just fine, if you consistently find yourself with unpleasant teammates it simply means you failed in handling them properly.

Benesmash1 votes

EDIT: i'm done and sold my account to my friend for $20. I just lost a game where an alistair tower dived 3 times in a row and when we said "don't be so aggressive" he said "gg toxic. all muted im feeding gg."

My last game. Nothing negative, just being a complete asshat.

Benesmash1 votes

I have no idea how that happens. Maybe i should record my games and post them here so people will see what I put up with on a consistent basis because I don't think it's normal.

Benesmash1 votes

You must have praised rnjesus because I get a feeder in almost every single game. Usually it's the adc.

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