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I'm so sick and tired of having to rely on a jungler to win games.

Ruloh·9/14/2017, 12:23:00 AM·1 votes·520 views

A good jungler will foresee match ups and predict where to apply or relieve pressure in lane. A good jungler will not sit in their jungle farming all day until they just happen to be where the action is, and flippantly decide to join the fray, only to either come too late or get killed in the process. Then go back to farming all day. A good jungler will have map awareness. A good jungler will understand when to prioritize objectives over kills. A good jungler will actually FUCKING CARE about the team comp and not force laners to pick a champion based on their selfish desire to play an assassin from the jungle. A good jungler will know how to invade and counter jungle. A good jungler will provide/deny vision and stop putting all the blame for lack of vision on the support who can only place THREE fucking wards, plus a pink, on the ENTIRE map. A good jungler will not be flamed, or flame others.

I am so sick and tired of having to rely on a jungler to win games. Lately it feels like ranked has become nothing but a snowball clown fiesta that decides the outcome. Granted, throws occasionally happen, but for the most part whenever someone stomps their lane and the jungler does NOTHING to apply or relieve pressure to lessen the likelihood of a game snowballing out of control, the chances for winning a game rely entirely on the 5 enemies screwing up at once in a single instant and for whatever reason giving you a WOMBO COMBO that may or may not end in your favor depending on how far ahead they are.

But seriously Riot, can we tone the snowball factor down from 11 to like... Idk, a 6? Solo queue is so pubstomp heavy that "Teamwork", that magical word you guys like to emphasize exists and should be strived towards feels absolutely negligible given the current state of the game. When I win or lose in Solo Queue, it's roughly 70-80% due to a single player rather than 70-80% due to teamwork. And that player generally doesn't fall very easily to strategizing or teamwork no matter how badly you want us to believe that. The fact that smurfs are a thing should stand as a testament to this unbalanced BS, no single player should be allowed to just overrun a game with a single champ and be stronger than a full five man team. Maybe there could be a level limiter based on the average level between all 10 players so teamfighting can still be a better option than just giving up team fighting entirely and banking on split pushing to make a comeback.

8 Comments

3bola Virus9/14/2017, 12:27:09 AM2 votes

The last one is factually inaccurate. If you play League regardless of your skill level or whatever, you will both flame and be flamed. It's as customary to the game of League as farming is.

Linna Excel9/14/2017, 12:31:02 AM1 votes

Then learn to carry from your normal role so you aren't dependent on your jungler.

Ruloh9/14/2017, 12:43:42 AM1 votes

Supports can't carry on their own. They can set up all the kills they want but it amounts to nothing if the Support's teammates are incapable of following up properly. Or even playing the game smart. Now if you want to argue that a support CAN carry with champs like Annie, Brand, or some other traditional mid lane mage, then I'm going to say "Well of course you can carry as a MAGE."

FYI, my primary is support. Secondary is jungling, but I don't have the macro knowledge to be as efficient at jungling as I wish I was.

jwebb01139/14/2017, 1:17:35 AM1 votes

its a team game, you need to treat it as such and realize 1 man cant win the game, however 1 man can lose the game.

you should depend on your teammates

Ruloh9/14/2017, 2:45:43 AM1 votes

My match histories beg to differ, as do my rank experiences.

Zenkage9/14/2017, 4:29:39 AM1 votes

See your now starting to see behind the curtain. But its not JUST Jungle. Lets say your jungles decent and your support refuses to buy antything but AP items. Your vision is severely limited and you will get jumped in the jungle on a switch or something and lose because of someone else's bullshit attitude.

Lets go adc next. The adc decides they want to revive Urgot adc...yup and can you report it? nope they are allowed to. ADC has no rankge bot lane get snowballed and you have a very fed adc and support against you lets say in mid lane ...3 v 1 while the two idiots thta fed sit in the bot lane and farm. your 3 v 1...Tell me this game isnt all luck I dare you.

Ruloh9/14/2017, 4:37:53 AM1 votes

It's not ALL luck, but MMR definitely plays a hand in that. I just hate how snowbally this game can get and how prominent split pushing is in Solo queue. It's obnoxiously toxic and divisive for the game's community. Why should I bother with teamwork when split pushing works much better?

Bionic Jellyfish9/14/2017, 6:01:39 AM1 votes

split pushing is fairly easy to deal with, as long as you have some map awareness and the enemy splitpusher isn't the most fed person on their team. just get someone stronger to splitpush the same lane, then initiate a teamfight to punish the splitpush. Shen with tp is very good for this.