Buffed Master Yi

VtolxVenom·Feb 22, 2018·2 votes·594 views

This is on PBE and I slowed it down for you to see, but halfshots in 3 autos, and she had 2 armor items. and going into . Destroyed the the in 1 auto, half shot Vi in 1 auto... Not sure if this is ok

20 Comments

SEKAIFeb 22, 20183 votes

"Oh no a Yi penta'ed a team who literally failed EVERYTHING in that fight, Yi must be too strong!"

Why the hell do you think the guy made it into being one of the worst champs on the roster and legitimately the worst jungler in the entire game, in the first place? Because of assholes like you who can't see Yi doing anything, as soon as he is not a troll pick and actually did something noteworthy, you call him "OP plz nerf", wth?

VtolxVenomFeb 22, 20181 votes

No, One, we did try to solo out the Yi, guess what? He still killed us all. Im not saying "Yi is too strong" and I never said that, I said it wasn't ok. Illaoi had 2 armor items, one which reduces attack dmg coming from autos, and another witch slow's down autos. She has around 130 armor in total. And half shotting a Vi with 1 auto? I don't think thats ok. Also, I didn't say "OP plz nerf" yet another thing you said, that I clearly didn't. Also, if you checked the PBE recently, they made a new rune which reduces dmg after it was hit by it, ability or auto. Yes, the Yi did a great job, but I don't find that basically 1v5ing ok.

AzadetheFeb 22, 20182 votes

The team he killed had 0 Hard cc. Yi had a Leona.......

VtolxVenomFeb 22, 20181 votes

Xayah e isnt hard cc?

AzadetheFeb 22, 20181 votes

if it can hit. which vs Yi..... it doesn't.....

VtolxVenomFeb 23, 20181 votes

You clearly did not watch the video. Xayah hit the E.

AzadetheFeb 23, 20181 votes

You do realize there were 2 teammates right next to yi for him to attack during the root? which is short? Roots don't stop auto attacks.

VtolxVenomFeb 23, 20181 votes

And that brings up another point, 3v5 and they still won. But you are still wrong. Yes roots don't stop auto attacks, but Nami bubble is hard cc. But I mean, its hard to cc anybody when you get 2 shot, amiright?

The team he killed had 0 Hard cc. Yi had a Leona

AzadetheFeb 23, 20181 votes

You do realize the very first to die was Nami, and she never landed a bubble. she died in 1100 damage, so obviously wrong build vs Yi as well, and well out of place.

VtolxVenomFeb 23, 20181 votes

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You do realize the very first to die was Nami, and she never landed a bubble. she died in 1100 damage, so obviously wrong build vs Yi as well, and well out of place.

Exactly my point. She got 2 shotted. WITH AN AUTO. 1100 dmg in less than 2 seconds? That's Veigar worthy. Nami isn't even supposed to build tank. I mean Locket is the only item that would be useful. She's supposed to heal the ADC, which she was out of position from. But Nami is besides the point. One shotting Gage is ok? Two shotting Vi is ok?

AzadetheFeb 23, 20181 votes

You do realize a late game Vayne can Q for 1700 + 440 damage? (Q hits for 1700 and procs Statik Shiv for 440 more? That's why her entire kit works.

Leblanc can do over 3400 damage in 2 seconds.

Shaco can erase 3300 HP 280 Armor mage Morgana in 2 seconds.

There's tons of champs who do over 1100 damage. That's small. That's 1 Xayah auto attack late game.

Veigar is more like 4000 damage depending on how low you are before he ults.

VtolxVenomFeb 23, 20181 votes

Vayne Yeah and those are not ok. You are proving my point. Again. My POINT. Shaco? LMAO are you serious? Shaco can do crit, and if you have 280 armor crit wouldnt be affecting you. In 2 seconds? I call bullshit. Need prove. Veigar CAN ONE SHOT JUST LIKE YI.

AzadetheFeb 23, 20181 votes

I really suggest you go try a 5 item Shaco vs what I said using item 3147 item 1412 item 3031 item 3087 item 3009 . His first backstab will do literally 70% of the morg's HP, and then he will clone to prevent a Q and then he will clean up the rest of her HP.

I used to be able to counter Shaco. Still can early game and mid game. Late game he just tears up no matter what tankiness you are. The only way to kill him late game is to group and catch him when he's trying to snipe 1, and ambush him. If you are solo late game, he will almost 100% kill you.

RaydenfireFeb 22, 20182 votes

Your making this out of context. This Master Yi was clearly fed, had Dark Harvest, and was going a Critical Build and all of this together is an equivalent to a fed ADC.

Their Gankplank was AFK which most likely led to more farm being available, additionally the Red Team had more kills.

I don't think a moment like this can equate to something being labelled as "Not okay" or "Unhealthy" because the Master Yi was able to get his damage out efficiently, it's like saying that because you left a full build Varus alone and he melted your team that isn't okay.

And this Illaoi took 6 Autos and a Alpha Strike (Q) which from what i saw were mostly all Criticals. Not to mention this Master Yi is up 2-4 Levels on the enemy team, which in turn means he has more gold and is stronger, the Vi had her Ult which could've locked down the Master Yi, Illaoi failed to output her Ultimate, the Master Yi had a Leona that played well to keep the damage and focus off of the Master Yi while he could Alpha Strike at a vulnerable moment and 2/5 of the Team had their Ultimates up and most of their Summoners were up as well.

VtolxVenomFeb 22, 20181 votes

Ok, a comment that actually has an argument. First paragraph. Yes to everything. Not much I can argue. Same with second. Third, Thing is, Varus has a CC in which he can lock down the entire team, Yi doesn't. You can't say thats like it because nothing is like Yi, nothing is like Varus, you cannot compare the two. Fourth. You mentioned nothing about the fact that Illaoi has armor items, Ninja tabi and Warden's Mail, which from Ninja makes it so that auto attacks aren't as powerful, that should be said with the crit too. If you have armor the crit should go down, but that's Riot's job, not mine. 2-4 lvls yes... Vi's ult isn't a hard cc, such as Xayah E, but Yi can just Q both and wont be effected. That was in .25 time so, that was about 2 seconds that he got a penta kill. She was only able too use ult and a q before she died. Not to mention that Yi went through the Gage in one auto, and popped it, in one auto. How is that Illaoi's fault? Also, for most of Illaoi fight Leona was in Kalista Ult, so that's out the window. Xayah and Nami used ult on Swain earlier in the game, so that's not relevant. Second, they didn't even use a Summ, besides Leona ignite, which was at the end of the fight. so that's out the window too.

RaydenfireFeb 23, 20181 votes

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Ok, a comment that actually has an argument. First paragraph. Yes to everything. Not much I can argue. Same with second. Third, Thing is, Varus has a CC in which he can lock down the entire team, Yi doesn't. You can't say thats like it because nothing is like Yi, nothing is like Varus, you cannot compare the two. Fourth. You mentioned nothing about the fact that Illaoi has armor items, Ninja tabi and Warden's Mail, which from Ninja makes it so that auto attacks aren't as powerful, that should be said with the crit too. If you have armor the crit should go down, but that's Riot's job, not mine. 2-4 lvls yes... Vi's ult isn't a hard cc, such as Xayah E, but Yi can just Q both and wont be effected. That was in .25 time so, that was about 2 seconds that he got a penta kill. She was only able too use ult and a q before she died. Not to mention that Yi went through the Gage in one auto, and popped it, in one auto. How is that Illaoi's fault? Also, for most of Illaoi fight Leona was in Kalista Ult, so that's out the window. Xayah and Nami used ult on Swain earlier in the game, so that's not relevant. Second, they didn't even use a Summ, besides Leona ignite, which was at the end of the fight. so that's out the window too.

I think you're interpreting the Varus and Yi comparison wrong, i meant as in his damage is capable of melting a team if he is effectively able to get his damage off, like most ADC's.

I hadn't mentioned the fact of the Armor Items because i stated that Illaoi took the full blunt force of 6 Autos and a Alpha Strike which were all Criticals. Tabi's do reduce Auto Attack damage but doesn't completely nullify it, just significantly less effective, armor reduces physical damage in percentages which makes Criticals greatly less effective and the Warden's Mail only gives Armor in this scenario because it's Passive doesn't apply in this scenario due to Master Yi's Ultimate. If she had a Randuin's instead of the Warden's then it would've enabled maybe 3-4 more Auto Attacks.

Master Yi's E enables True Damage which is a core part of his Kit to melt down tanks and is partly responsible for the Illaoi popping like a zit. But it is as you said, Riot's Job. I don't really know how to argue against a Attack Speed oriented Champion abusing Crits, nor do i enforce it.

Vi's Ult is moderate CC and is Hard with her Q immediately right after. In a teamfight that 1 second of precious lockdown can be an opportunity if the team is coordinated. Yi's Q doesn't come up often enough to dodge a Vi Ult whenever he feels like it, but in a scenario wheres he getting Takedowns, maybe. But in this scenario the Vi was right next to the Master Yi, meaning that the lockdown is almost instantaneous and the Master Yi's Q Cast Time isn't able to get him out of it. Xayah E isn't an effective CC in this scenario in my opinion either and was lockdown by the Leona anyways.

I actually realized after watching it again that the Illaoi did get her Ultimate off, my bad. And typically, it is the Illaoi's fault, cause this is the culmination of the entire game up to this point, what you've done and what you haven't done dictated the end result, you don't take a test in school and say it's not your fault whether you did it good or bad, you've been working and focusing on this subject for the past while. It's what you did up to that point which dictates it and you had control over your success or downfall (Though in League i can admit your teammates are another factor but the analogy is basic enough to understand).

The Leona was in Kalista Ult for like a 1/6 of a Second. Nami had Exhaust, Xayah had Heal, Kai'sa had Heal. This Master Yi had Q up when he engaged the fight so that meant he had to run up with his Ult which was a fine time for the Nami to apply Exhaust before she died, Kai'sa could've healed within 1.5 Seconds before she got knocked up and killed, Xayah was in Ult for a fair amount of time, but, then stood still for nearly a second, shot her Q, stood still for around half a second, then got one auto. Additionally, she had the entire fight to use Heal.

Additionally to that other comment, i indirectly addressed it by mentioning that this Master Yi had an AFK which led to the team having more available farm, which led up to this. And though i've already mentioned he was fed, you say it as if your not considering what i'm saying and treating it like it doesn't take more effort to takedown a stronger opponent.

VtolxVenomFeb 23, 20181 votes

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I think you're interpreting the Varus and Yi comparison wrong, i meant as in his damage is capable of melting a team if he is effectively able to get his damage off, like most ADC's.

I hadn't mentioned the fact of the Armor Items because i stated that Illaoi took the full blunt force of 6 Autos and a Alpha Strike which were all Criticals. Tabi's do reduce Auto Attack damage but doesn't completely nullify it, just significantly less effective, armor reduces physical damage in percentages which makes Criticals greatly less effective and the Warden's Mail only gives Armor in this scenario because it's Passive doesn't apply in this scenario due to Master Yi's Ultimate. If she had a Randuin's instead of the Warden's then it would've enabled maybe 3-4 more Auto Attacks.

Master Yi's E enables True Damage which is a core part of his Kit to melt down tanks and is partly responsible for the Illaoi popping like a zit. But it is as you said, Riot's Job. I don't really know how to argue against a Attack Speed oriented Champion abusing Crits, nor do i enforce it.

Vi's Ult is moderate CC and is Hard with her Q immediately right after. In a teamfight that 1 second of precious lockdown can be an opportunity if the team is coordinated. Yi's Q doesn't come up often enough to dodge a Vi Ult whenever he feels like it, but in a scenario wheres he getting Takedowns, maybe. But in this scenario the Vi was right next to the Master Yi, meaning that the lockdown is almost instantaneous and the Master Yi's Q Cast Time isn't able to get him out of it. Xayah E isn't an effective CC in this scenario in my opinion either and was lockdown by the Leona anyways.

I actually realized after watching it again that the Illaoi did get her Ultimate off, my bad. And typically, it is the Illaoi's fault, cause this is the culmination of the entire game up to this point, what you've done and what you haven't done dictated the end result, you don't take a test in school and say it's not your fault whether you did it good or bad, you've been working and focusing on this subject for the past while. It's what you did up to that point which dictates it and you had control over your success or downfall (Though in League i can admit your teammates are another factor but the analogy is basic enough to understand).

The Leona was in Kalista Ult for like a 1/6 of a Second. Nami had Exhaust, Xayah had Heal, Kai'sa had Heal. This Master Yi had Q up when he engaged the fight so that meant he had to run up with his Ult which was a fine time for the Nami to apply Exhaust before she died, Kai'sa could've healed within 1.5 Seconds before she got knocked up and killed, Xayah was in Ult for a fair amount of time, but, then stood still for nearly a second, shot her Q, stood still for around half a second, then got one auto. Additionally, she had the entire fight to use Heal.

Additionally to that other comment, i indirectly addressed it by mentioning that this Master Yi had an AFK which led to the team having more available farm, which led up to this. And though i've already mentioned he was fed, you say it as if your not considering what i'm saying and treating it like it doesn't take more effort to takedown a stronger opponent.

"Like most ADC's" is my problem. Not every ADC can 1v5. If they are smart and can dodge then yeah sure. But this Yi all he did was auto, auto, auto, auto, and guess what... MORE AUTO'S. He q'd twice, and used E. He could have just pressed "R, E" and sat back and watched the handy work. With ADC's you need to dodge things.I don't think any of them have an ability like Yi's Q.

And unlike Yi, ADC's need to build an Lord Dom's or Mortal Reg, Unless you're Vayne, but even then you still would need a Mortal at least. Yi didn't have any of that. Here's his build item 3087 item 3031 item 3006 item 1412 item 3046 item 3153

Nothing here that takes down tanks, just his E. Which if you ask me, is pretty damn stupid if he can take her down that fast.

All Vi's ult is a Knock up, 1.25 seconds, and if you didn't know that is like snap as fast as you can read that snap. Q is also a "knockup" and it doesn't even say how long it lasts for, probs less than .5 of a second. That is not reliable CC if he can just heal 250 in a single auto.

How is it Illaoi's fault? She got her dmg off. Vi was Autoing the Yi, which doesn't deal dmg is he's healing. Xayah ult'd E'd then Q'd once. Then like 2 autos. Kai'Sa wasn't even doing anything. And Nami got One shot. If anything Illaoi did the most. But even then that wasn't that much.

My bad, Leona was still doing nothing for 5/6 of the fight. Maybe CCing Vi. But again, the Leona is completely irrelevant to Yi.

Also, No. Did you see how fast Nami died? Are you kidding? You can't exhaust a untargetable target... Again. Nami got 1-shot.

That's Kai'Sa and Xayah's fault for not healing.

And Master Yi was only top once when he took farm right after GP rage quitted.

And I'll say it once more. 3v5.

VtolxVenomFeb 22, 20181 votes

Also, did you mention that that was a 3v5, in which Yi did all the work? Na... didn't think so.

PopcornBunniFeb 23, 20181 votes

The tank busting character is shredding a not-even-full-tank juggernaut, and you find issue with that?

Do you also take issue with assassins taking out squishies, or with tanks chain ccing assassins?

VtolxVenomFeb 23, 20181 votes

I don't take an issue with assassins taking out squishies, because one, if they play it right then they will kill them no problem. If you have summoner 4 then you should be ok. But the fact that squishies have basically no resistances, and that the tanks do no dmg. Thats what makes those ok.