Let's Talk About Aatrox

Zakith··5 votes·709 views

I love Aatrox. I love the idea of a melee auto attacker who has huge life steal, 1v1 potential, and scales into a late game monster who excels at split-pushing and diving backlines. What I DON'T like, though, is playing him. Because, whenever I play him, I feel like I am none of those things. Instead, I feel like a fragile weakling who is easy to beat at all stages of the game. Sure, against certain matchups he has an good early game, but he will very rarely have kill potential in that lane and is never the kind of bully that a Renekton or Riven can be. I don't know how to fix him, but he definitely needs fixing. Yet, despite this he stays out of patch notes time after time. I feel like Riot doesn't know what to do with him either. It's either that or they are just ignoring him.

According to Champion.GG he has a 46.82% win-rate. Perhaps the meta is simply not in his favor (I don't know, I can't think of a time when it WAS in his favor) but this is incredibly low, ESPECIALLY since most people playing him have a large number of games played (115.78) on him. To me, this says that he needs some buffs, but from what I've heard about his first release that isn't something we want to go back to. What he really needs is a rework, something that allows him to be playable and balance-able at the same time.

Finally, he's super similar to other champions (though worse). For example, Xin Zhao. They are both auto attacking champions, they both have a slow, an engage, a knock-up, a heal and/or damage boost every third hit, an attack speed boost, playable in the top lane or the jungle, and AOE damage on their ultimates. BUT Xin Zhao gets to have BOTH the damage and healing every third hit, a point-and-click engage over a skillshot, bonus damage on EACH hit for three attacks when he hits Q, an attack speed boost as a basic skill, and an ultimate that can be used to counterplay enemies. In Aatrox's favor there is only the poke on his E.

Why is Aatrox so similar but worse to other champions? Why is he out of the patch notes? Pls Rito, buff ya boy Aatrox :(

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Marshbouy1 votes

he needs a rework before he gets buffed.

Xidphel1 votes

Who?

420 grams1 votes

My opinion is that it's because damage is super high, and people die too quick. Itd be different if the damage was lower so he'd have a chance, but an adc in the team fight can 2-3 hit him before he gets to them. Also, his knock up is a waste since you can't use it since you're stunned after you use it. And it seems dumb to build him tank since his abilities punish that by costing more health.

Zetto1 votes

Riot has clearly stated that they're doing to aatrox what they did to poppy, meaning that they're intentionally not buffing him in order to keep him from being a monster. Tbh the only chance of becoming not trash-tier that aatrox has is a rework, either partial or full.

Zakith1 votes

Can you give a link to where they mentioned it? I can't seem to find it and don't want to get lost on THAT side of the boards shudder

Zetto1 votes

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Can you give a link to where they mentioned it? I can't seem to find it and don't want to get lost on THAT side of the boards shudder

Sorry, it's been quite some time since they made that announcement. I wouldn't even know where to look for it now.

Zakith1 votes

Ah well. Good to know that ya boy Aatrox is on the radar

Sevixys1 votes

I have been keeping an eye on Trox-news, the rework is atm iceboxed for the problems in his kit. Also there are some champions that are ahead him in the VGU list Warwick Evelynn Urgot Nunu Galio Swain Right now it's more likely that they are adding him in the diver update and giving him some QoL updates like his passive stack modifications - then waiting for his full VGU.

Calabok1 votes

no way. i seen him wreck games multiple times

Sevixys1 votes

As a die-hard aatrox main, I can agree with this. However, when he is losing, he loses hard. That's called feast or famine and it's all because of his sometimes binary(damage or no damage) kit and the gold reliance cause by the binarity.

Right now I would love some minor base stat (HP basicly) buffs and the QoL of not losing your passive stats immediately while dying.

Let's hope RiotRepertoir&co will handle him in upcoming diver update!

Statchecky1 votes

More differences between Xin and Aatrox: -Xin doesn't get passive attack speed that I know of, he gets attack speed by activating his W which means that it is better in a short fight but Aatrox's attack speed is better in extended fights so long as he keeps his blood well. -Aatrox's heal has the potential to triple. -Xin has to auto 3 times to get to his knock up. -Xin's dash being targeted makes it guaranteed to land but also means it needs a target to be used and is less versatile than Aatrox's dash because of it. -Xin doesn't get a GA. -Xin doesn't get temporary range.

As for Aatrox being punished for building health, there is one important benefit to buying health on him, Blood Thirst is tripled when used in low health, buying health on Aatrox means that you will be in that low health state with more HP than otherwise. That and you wont always start fights 50% health, so if you start a fight at full health having built HP your opponent has to work harder to take away you blood well attack speed. I use Strength of the Ages on jungle Aatrox more than Fervor because it helps you keep your blood well.

chronofreak1 votes

I agree that Aatrox definitely needs work. I love him, but comments of "feast or famine" are spot on. I hope this thread keeps going and Riot pays attention.

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