how exactly do you win vs trundle as a melee?

Chrome Raven··2 votes·1,010 views

the guy steals your ad, he slows you, gains ad, gains hp, lowers your resistances. its like riot made sure this guy cant die in a 1v1. please fucking lower his ratios. his q does 300 damage mid game for fucking 20 mana. get that shit out of here.

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EndlessSorcerer3 votes

You don't duel a champion specifically designed for dueling.

You're just playing directly into his strengths.

Chrome Raven1 votes

except you can beat jax after he uses his e. but trundle is just flat out the most broken top laner in the game followed by fiora,mundo,tahm kench, and then garen. when will they nerf these champions

Dominick Destine2 votes

Rumble

Chrome Raven1 votes

he gwts one mr item and ur done.

Sachabot1 votes

Then you're not building Rumble right. You should be rushing penetration.

Death by Glamour1 votes

Qss?

Chrome Raven1 votes

u want me to rush a qss 15 minutes in and lose out on damage just because a champion lacks the proper design to make him somewhat mechanically challenging?

Génos1 votes

You dont win. You just farm as best you can against him. Riot doesnt care if you have fun or not when you play against that champion

Chrome Raven1 votes

"sooner or later we will buff everyone to renektons level" - riot games season 4 its season 6 and they havent done shit to bruisers that dont go tank.

Death by Glamour1 votes

Dude i just suggested an item that may or may not stop his ult.

Best thing to do is just safe farm and try to kite his ult

pE4CbxDPQO1 votes

Yeah there isn't a lot you can do. I think Fiora beats him.

Death by Glamour1 votes

Fight cancer with aids?

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

Fioras Q does 300 true damage for 20 mana aswell.

Don't fight him when his ult is on you or when his W is up...basically don't fight him at all unless you are Jax or Tryndamere. You are not gonna beat him in a straight duel so just chill and farm, he doesn't really have a lot of kill pressure.

Chrome Raven1 votes

u have any idea how easy it is to dive anyone when you're trundle? ask your jungler to come for a free kill because you knew how to press r on someone.

The Bíg Ticket1 votes

Yeah I actually play alot of Trundle...or used to rather. He is not that strong, works better as a counterpick because he has trouble vs any ranged or mobile champion in lane.

redniwediS1 votes

Farm up and prepare for a long lane phase. Your goal isn't to snowball, it's to survive and make sure he doesn't make you useless during the mid and late game.

You don't have to beat him, you just have to make sure he doesn't beat you.

Chrome Raven1 votes

its kind of hard when his jungle understands how broken trundle is resulting in them sitting on my toweer while my juungler is helpless .

redniwediS2 votes

Here's a match I played as Garen against Trundle last night. We didn't win, but we held our own for quite a while. I didn't say it would be easy, or that you wouldn't die.

Your jungler should focus on mid and bot lane and NOT gank your lane. It's fully up to you to find a way to deal with Trundle and his jungler.

Find opportunities to teleport gank, and save your cooldowns for fighting under your tower. You know they will dive you, so do your absolute best to make sure you at least get a kill out of it.

Again, your goal is just to survive and stay relevant for the other stages of the game. Once it hits mid game you can roam freely instead of babysitting your tower. If you are underfed you won't be able to help your team take Trundle down, so just farm as safely as you can, stock up on a ton of health potions, and don't do anything risky.

Chrome Raven1 votes

except garen has incredible survivability due to his passive. no one else has that lol.

redniwediS1 votes

Correction; Garen has incredible survivability after level 16 due to his passive. From levels 1 to 11 he might as well not even have a passive, and that is the stage of the game you have to survive.

It can be done, even with tower dives. Focusing on Trundle, rather than what you can do to help your situation, will simply hold you back.

Sachabot1 votes

See ES's comment.

LaserDeathBlade1 votes

Pretty sure you can just walk away when he ults lol....

Boots of Swiftness is the meta now anyway, get those and he won't slow you for nearly as much

Chrome Raven1 votes

and his w and e dont stop you whatsoever.. and hsi q slow speeds you up instead.

LaserDeathBlade2 votes

Yeah much better if you stick around and duel him right

Trundle doesn't have any dashes, whatever champion you're playing probably does. It's not that hard to get around his pillar when he ults, just run away when he ults then go back when its over >->

Sachabot1 votes

Alright, so I'm gonna actually take this as a serious non-QQ thread even though that's what it is. As a former Trundle main (S4), here's what I had the most trouble against:

AP/magic damage Range Hard crowd control High mobility

Basically, Trundle is like Darius in that you shouldn't sit and trade AAs with him. You want to kite and poke around him, or stun him and walk away before he can fight back. If you don't do either of those, you're gonna have a bad time because he's designed to win when you play his game, like most champions. His design is just simpler than most and brutally effective for it.

TL;DR Don't play his game if you can avoid it. If you can't avoid it, minimize losses and look for plays elsewhere.

LiveYiOrDieHard1 votes

Mind specifying a melee champion? Because I know a lot of melee champions that can beat him.

Renekton? Poke him. Combo him. Don't fight during his ult. Darius? ^See above Jarvan? ^See above Garen? Combo him. Don't fight during his ult Cho? Farm lane, pop him up if he engages and laugh as minions hit him. Don't fight during his ult. Tahm? You're OP so just roll your face on the keyboard Mundo? ^See above Fiora? ^See above Jax? ^See above Gangplank? You're gangplank, cheese and farm, cheese and farm Irelia? Farm. Make him fight you in your creeps. Don't fight during his ult. Nasus? ^See above

Who actually loses to him? Rengar maybe? Pantheon? Yorick? Riven? Honestly tryndamere, who somebody else mentioned for some reason, would be one of my very last choices against trundle, but even then tryndamere can do his typical play-like-a-pussy-and-push-towers-all-game strat and still be plenty useful.

Troiann1 votes

Nothing can beat trundle in a straight up fight. There's a reason he's basically perma ban in all my games.

It's the teamfights where he starts to lose power.

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