Azir, the Bird Who Couldn't Peck a Champion

Bumblezel··4 votes·610 views

So why is Azir W, Arise designed to prevent auto attacks when his soldiers are attacking? He gets the cool animation that makes his auto attacks really "zappy" strong, and a crit, although probably niche, could make it more interesting, but his AD and on-hit effects are useless because of his soldiers, even Urgot can do better, while other irregular champions, Lux Ezreal Teemo can at least scale with either AD, AP and/or attack speed. This really affects his itemization really hard. I pay full gold for item 3146 and item 3115 just to make full use of everything I paid for, or even item 3508 just because I can and always can auto attack. I understand that you don't want to do hybrid champions but I have to point out that AD is not the same as AP, where ALL champions can always use AD to auto attack and I like Riot to maintain this gameplay element constant

TL;DR: Azir needs to also auto attack with his soldiers in range, any form of balancing is possible as long as he can do this for itemization sake.

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AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

you lose nashors tooth passive in exchange for playing the strongest champion in the league. sounds legit.

Bumblezel1 votes

That's what I don't understand, he's balanced to be a steamrolling zoning mage late-game, but gets a very weak early game who can't attack with his soldiers. The power spike is incredibly steep, but it doesn't really feel good losing item passives just for that power. :(

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

his laning phase is one of the strongest and safest, his midgame objective control is very strong and his lategame + teamfights at any point are so good its almost oppressive.

like, he is a god-king. he doesnt give a shit about ANYTHING except his kingdom. he simply stands there and protects it and conquers everything. he doesnt go anywhere to enemies to fight anyone, he takes what he wants and if someone wants to fight him, they come to him and he lets his soldiers do his work.

this guy doesnt give a flyshit about item passives or anything. hes the king, hes the god. he doesnt go "help his team". his team comes to help him conquer.

he is infact so mighty and so kingly, he doesnt conquer by trying to kill anyone, he simply puts his flag and saith "this is mine now" and if you dont agree, you have to come to him and fight him, because his reach is longer than yours.

that is azir. if you understand him, you will start not giving a fuck about banalities aswell.

Bumblezel1 votes

Well thematically he is the Emperor, but again that's flavor image, which is just one way to look at him.

But again, he doesn't feel good to use by the people who can't have him auto attack with his soldiers, even if they come right at him, and if it really doesn't feel good to have them, then somebody will definitely give a f**k about him. He's the emperor that will do anything for Shurima. Some players might even try to buy item 3100 because they can auto attack at your face using E, Shifting Sand, but he really can't because he's being pampered by his luxurious soldier busy with his "I'm helping :)" stance. You still think he's really almighty when he can't do that himself?

Think Caitlyn for a bit, she got the kit similar to a sniper, so like him, she needs to be "untouchable" but she can also make a surprise entrance during teamfights to clean up the mess, much like any assassin. But that's the image we can get from her, she got one of the longest auto attack range (650) in the game, and that makes her benefit really heavily from anything supporting Attack stats, compared to other Marksmen.

TL;DR: Being a King or a God doesn't mean you can't do it yourself, and Azir is the almighty Emperor, not the Strategist like Swain.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

well, in the end he CAN auto attack, so what exactly is your point?

also, if you want him to auto attack at the same time as his soldiers, that would be totally broken, and if you would nerf the soldier damage so he can attack at the same time, then that would nerf the soldiers too much when they are attacking by themselves.

why dont you just love it the way it is? i think its unique, cool and fits his theme. he CAN do it himself, but why would he. he doesnt have to. if you fall into the trap of wanting to make him do things, you instantly throw the concept out of the window and play bad. he is actually designed around this mentality, so if you dont play accordingly to his lore, you play wrong.

Kazaashi1 votes

All the items you listed in this post are just terrible on him. Rush CDR and stack AP.

item 3158 ; item 3165 ; item 3089; item 3116; item 3135 ; item 3285

TheRakkun2 votes

Uhh no

item 3165 item 3285 item 3089 item 3135 item 3020 item 3157

the other 20% CDR comes from masteries and CDR glyphs

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