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Zilean's viability as support

WarriorSpacePony·10/4/2015, 6:59:04 PM·2 votes·541 views

So I play a lot of Zilean, and boy do i love the champ but its coming to the point where he isn't even close to viable anymore. Every champs getting nerfs and buff and all that but where is zileans love?

I have a skill shot that has a small window to land. I goes on minions 50% of the time when there is a choice between them and champs, and i need to land 2 of them. So why do i ask does it have to be the slowest skill shot out of any other one in the game...

Sure you can argue that my slow should make it more easy to land but with the new every champ has a slide meta slows are useless for control. My early game is abysmal as well compared to any other support. Low damage, no sustain, low range, no escape, and the squishiest thing in the game, all on top of having to use 3 moves to create an opening which completely drains my mana pool.

And okay I get around all that and then what? I make one mistake, just one, and the whole community jumps straight down my throat for picking zilean. Even with all the champion flaws the biggest is the negative stigma that he has as a champion. I cant play a game without someone asking "WHY ZIL" "REPORT ZILEAN USELSS CHAMP" "OMFG TRASH CHAMP" for not wracking up the early kills. Sure i'm not the best zilean but i try not to die early game, but its hard when your constantly verbally abused for playing something you enjoy. ... Mid game supports like zilean are just verbally shat on over and over and over again but hey, lets focus on balancing the JUGGERNAUTS. Not one patch helps me out. NOT ONE.

All I ask really is make my bombs a slightly faster projectile. Just slightly, so I can stand more of a chance in this season as a support.

10 Comments

Environmentalist10/4/2015, 7:06:58 PM1 votes

I still think he's viable. The bombs provide a lot of poke, and I do find them pretty easy to land. Throw them where you think the enemy will be in 0.5 seconds, not where they are now. If you're chasing, speed yourself up and throw them in front of the enemy. With the ally speed then rewind and speed yourself up he can get himself and his adc out of ganks fairly easily, assuming everything is warded.

I must admit a lot of the time I find it difficult to decide who and when to place the ult on, but meh. I also enjoy playing him, and when I do, nobody really goes off on me.

khorney10/4/2015, 7:20:57 PM1 votes

he is fine i use him alot and have no problem

Lugg10/4/2015, 7:23:15 PM1 votes

I have started picking him up again and I don't have too much trouble landing his bombs on champs. The hard part is landing the second one for the stun.

As for support viability, you have to use him as an extreme lane bully. Constantly harass and poke the enemy ADC out of lane to give your ADC a big CS advantage. When I am able to do this, we win games very easily.

I do agree he has mana problems early, which can really stop your poke. Plus he steals some CS due to the AoE. The one thing he really needs IMHO is that his slow or speed up lasts 1 second longer. That would really make that skill more effective.

Mimy10/4/2015, 7:31:49 PM1 votes

Zillean isn't bad.. lol

OMG YOUR WHOLE TEAM DID BAD XD!

They're just looking to the easiest person to blame..

1/6 jungle

1/7 top..

3/9 mid... <- Fed the most gold due to kills resetting bounty.

you went 0/3/5 which as a support is actually close to being positive.. (Positive meaning earned more gold then gave..)

http://i.imgur.com/RxtgvIw.png

These were some good games..

#Everyone has bad games.. Don't beat yourself up too much..

3tyson10/4/2015, 7:45:35 PM1 votes

if you think zileans skilshot is hard to land your playing him wrong..

max slow first sure you be missing out on allot of dmg but you can easily hit 2 bombs now and stun them since your not the do dmg guy but your adc is thats perfectly fine

you can also speed up your adc with a massive speedup wich is kind of op free guardians angle and passive is good with Mordekaiser