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Please do not try to force me to build AD on Mordekaiser; I want to build AP.

JedenVojak·11/14/2015, 8:32:56 AM·40 votes·2,097 views

PBE Update on Mordekaiser's Mace of Spades Total Damage after 3 hits - 40/80/120/160/200 (2.0/2.4/2.8/3.2/3.6 total AD) (.8 AP) vs live Total Damage after 3 hits - 28/66.5/117/181/260 (1.75 / 2.182 / 2.681 / 3.196 / 3.90 Total AD) (1.40 / 1.663 / 1.95 / 2.263 / 2.60 AP)

Source: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/11/1113-pbe-update.html

Please understand that Mordekaiser is an AP fighter champion. I don't want to ever build AD on him - and this change very heavily penalizes building AP on him as the AD ratio is almost completely untouched while his AP ratio has been gutted; it is to the point where the AP ratio is not worth the amount of ramp up the spell requires.

There already exists a ramping damage AD bruiser champion, his name is Darius. We don't need a new one.

EDIT: Looks like the ap ratio is going to be jacked up, so AP is not arbitrarily punished.

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http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/OjN6KHPV-riot-your-timing-is-impeccable?comment=00010001

Spread the word: Q's basic AP ratio is increased, but somehow not include in this build.

EDIT: I guess my last edit was not very clear. Riot seems to be aware of the AP ratio thing and are going to fix it in the next build, per Feral Pony's remarks.

19 Comments

hopeful411/14/2015, 8:42:12 AM2 votes

Look FeralPonys comment on the matter. Its not .2 AP, propably a typo by surr20 or a bug.

There already exists a ramping damage AD bruiser champion, his name is Darius. We don't need a new one.

They belong in the same class, they will obviously share a few similarities (although as i said Morde is not pigeonholed to build AP, just saying how stupid this statement is). Thats like saying that theres a ramping damage AP mage champion, his name is Azir. We dont need other mages.

iTziLLiRL11/14/2015, 9:26:29 AM1 votes

That may end up being a good thing tho... you can still build rylais on him but maybe not build 100% AP(Esp with the nerfs to AP items) and build stuff like triforce(You normally wouldnt want a triforce if you're building full AP) but the MS, 1.5 second add dmg, crit, AS might be a good thing on morde. having him kind of as a hybrid

SiG DxD11/14/2015, 11:25:33 AM1 votes

400 ad crit morde atomic bomb build gg

ZT Xperimentor11/14/2015, 12:49:03 PM1 votes

More spite against the community to save their pride. He's so weak to play top lane and is useless in aram since his rework.

RyzeRework11/14/2015, 6:42:24 PM1 votes

You get one or the other mordes q always scales off of ad more then ap even when it was only 1 q everyone complains about him he gets nerfed and everyone still complaing

SiG DxD11/14/2015, 7:31:42 PM1 votes

so if you build ap on new pbe morde is like building ap on kayle ?!?! HAHA

get 0 bonus damage from ap ,funny ratios .

Alpharite11/14/2015, 7:32:09 PM1 votes

What is the issue with reworking him to be an AP Bruiser? That's literally what his design screams for. Basically a less broken AP Darius.

Effly11/14/2015, 7:57:56 PM1 votes

I think the irony here is that he's going to be even stronger now. Before Q was only bonus AD. Now it's total. And with the changes to Gunblade, I think hybrid Morde will be... Just as oppressive as he has been.

Beaulah11/14/2015, 9:58:35 PM1 votes

Riot has decided that AP champs are toast. That's the way it is right now. I hope they change this mess back to what it was before this last update.

SuperJediNinja11/14/2015, 10:07:42 PM1 votes

THEN BUILD IT NOBODY IS SSTOPPING UUUUU [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

ProfDrDeath11/14/2015, 8:38:45 AM1 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/OjN6KHPV-riot-your-timing-is-impeccable?comment=00010001

Spread the word: Q's basic AP ratio is increased, but somehow not include in this build.

Ergono11/15/2015, 4:57:36 AM1 votes

There needs to be another AP item that's for Juggernauts who rely on AP ratios that the main issue. You have item 3116 item 3027 item 3151 .

Rod just doesn't work for champs like Morde. Liandry isn't very strong and not really designed for these type of champs. Add a AP Titanic/Ravenous Hydra item and I think champs like Morde will fair much better. To me Rylai is not a damage item as it is a utility item. That hurts these champions in my opinion.