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A Basic Island3 votes

Agreed.

Bronze is impossible to get out of if you're bronze.

Sasogwa2 votes

What is this video supposed to prove ? The 'smurf' presented here is terrible at cs'ing, watching his map, understanding basic game knowledge and on top of that's he's an asshole that doesn't miss an opportunity to blame his teammates for random crap.

Also to remind you of basic logic ; a proof that bronze is impossible to get out of does not consist of a single video with one supposedly good smurf that can not carry one game.

And finally I'm confused, you say Faker would win easily ; that means bronze is not impossible to get out (?)

Also :

Cho top overfeed vayne, his whole team died to vayne, just vayne, 1 player.

You're even proving there that 1 player can solo a team, meaning that it is possible to 1v5 in bronze. I don't get your reasoning, and it seems to me you're proving bronze is possible to get out of when trying to prove the opposite.

spombjop1 votes

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What is this video supposed to prove ? The 'smurf' presented here is terrible at cs'ing, watching his map, understanding basic game knowledge and on top of that's he's an asshole that doesn't miss an opportunity to blame his teammates for random crap.

Also to remind you of basic logic ; a proof that bronze is impossible to get out of does not consist of a single video with one supposedly good smurf that can not carry one game.

And finally I'm confused, you say Faker would win easily ; that means bronze is not impossible to get out (?)

Also :

You're even proving there that 1 player can solo a team, meaning that it is possible to 1v5 in bronze. I don't get your reasoning, and it seems to me you're proving bronze is possible to get out of when trying to prove the opposite.

Whole team shouldn't die to 1 player and his team died to 1 player. Which means that his team was BAD, noone can carry that. If they all died to 1 player imagine what would have happened if they fought 5v5

Sasogwa1 votes

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Whole team shouldn't die to 1 player and his team died to 1 player. Which means that his team was BAD, noone can carry that. If they all died to 1 player imagine what would have happened if they fought 5v5

Everyone is bad in bronze, that's the thing. I watched tons of games and played some with smurfs, it's stupidly easy to win. I can be that one player that 1v5's every time, and I'll still destroy the guys that are fed in the other team; because they are bad too, just fed, and still since they're in bronze they probably have terrible CS'ing, bad mechanics and suboptimal builds. Stop making excuses. Bronze is easy to get out of if you're skilled. And I'm not even a great mechanical player, I could just pick sthg like Jax and rightclick my way to silver with 90%+ winrate

spombjop1 votes

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Everyone is bad in bronze, that's the thing. I watched tons of games and played some with smurfs, it's stupidly easy to win. I can be that one player that 1v5's every time, and I'll still destroy the guys that are fed in the other team; because they are bad too, just fed, and still since they're in bronze they probably have terrible CS'ing, bad mechanics and suboptimal builds. Stop making excuses. Bronze is easy to get out of if you're skilled. And I'm not even a great mechanical player, I could just pick sthg like Jax and rightclick my way to silver with 90%+ winrate

THATS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM. U don't understand? Whole team SHOULDN'T die to 1 player. and bronze players would. THATS THE MAIN REASON, MAIN PROBLEM WITH BRONZE AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IS IMPOSIBLE TO GET OUT

Sasogwa1 votes

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THATS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM. U don't understand? Whole team SHOULDN'T die to 1 player. and bronze players would. THATS THE MAIN REASON, MAIN PROBLEM WITH BRONZE AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY IS IMPOSIBLE TO GET OUT

The fact that an entire team can be solo'ed by a single player proves that it is POSSIBLE to get out of bronze if you're the one carrying. It is easy to snowball in lane and therefore you can be fed and carry the game. People that think they are stuck aren't doing much in game except criticizing their teammates. As an example, the guy in the video, as Corki or Blitz, is rather average/bad, he doesn't carry sh*t. Nor do his teammates, well it's not the fault of his teammates or his, it's both. They're not good enough. If he was better, he could have carried them easily. But he's not.

Whatever, I give up, it's impossible to have a logical discussion with you.

Mike Hunts Toxic1 votes

you could probably give faker the lowest possible mmr bronze account, allow him to only solo queue and he would probably still take awhile to get out of bronze with the amount of afk'ing and feeding it doesnt matter how good you are alone

spombjop2 votes

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you could probably give faker the lowest possible mmr bronze account, allow him to only solo queue and he would probably still take awhile to get out of bronze with the amount of afk'ing and feeding it doesnt matter how good you are alone

faker isn't retard, he would pick kat or zed and kill them 1v5

Mike Hunts Toxic1 votes

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faker isn't retard, he would pick kat or zed and kill them 1v5

or the fed adc or top would just 2 shot him like anyone else once he gets stunned/snared

Troy2426211 votes

Bronze is not inescapable, but not every game is winnable.

Blitzidious1 votes

If it is indeed impossible, why are there people NOT in bronze? :l

spombjop1 votes

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If it is indeed impossible, why are there people NOT in bronze? :l

because not everybody is placed there. tell me how can person that just reached level 30 carry bronze where every 2nd game someone rage or goes afk?

A Basic Island1 votes

The trick is

You don't play ranked if you're a fresh 30 and on their first account.

spombjop1 votes

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The trick is

You don't play ranked if you're a fresh 30 and on their first account.

Why? Everyone play to get lvl 30 to play ranked. At least i couldn't wait when i start playing, i just wanted that lvl 30. it took me like a month to level my first account

Blitzidious1 votes

Um, I leveled to 30 so I could make more interesting and full masteries. I haven't even touched ranked yet, and have no intention of doing so.

hh the thinker1 votes

that corki isn't smurfing, that's the joke with the title.

spombjop1 votes

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that corki isn't smurfing, that's the joke with the title.

But he lagged and took so much damage.

Vanic9981 votes

I got out of bronze in all 2 seasons I played this game. Explain that if getting out of bronze is impossible.

Randomonium1 votes

This guy is a smurf? He plays like garbage. Can't CS under tower and misses all his skill shots. Then he just rages at his team even though he's the one who lost his lane. No wonder he can't get out of bronze without people carrying him.

Season 5 I started out Bronze 1. I dropped to Bronze 4 0 LP before I stopped blaming other people for my situation. From that point I carried myself to Silver 5.

Season 6 I started out Bronze 3. Within a couple months I'm already back to Silver 5. My goal is to be gold by the end of the season.

Keep in mind that I am completely horrible at this game. And yet I easily climbed out of bronze in two consecutive seasons. So if I can do it why can't you?

spombjop1 votes

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This guy is a smurf? He plays like garbage. Can't CS under tower and misses all his skill shots. Then he just rages at his team even though he's the one who lost his lane. No wonder he can't get out of bronze without people carrying him.

Season 5 I started out Bronze 1. I dropped to Bronze 4 0 LP before I stopped blaming other people for my situation. From that point I carried myself to Silver 5.

Season 6 I started out Bronze 3. Within a couple months I'm already back to Silver 5. My goal is to be gold by the end of the season.

Keep in mind that I am completely horrible at this game. And yet I easily climbed out of bronze in two consecutive seasons. So if I can do it why can't you?

Here is another proof just for you (same player but diferent video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAm2eAmlsYs Cho top overfeed vayne, his whole team died to vayne, just vayne, 1 player.

Randomonium2 votes

I'm confused. You posted video of a "smurf" who is playing like crap and blaming his team. And in response to me saying that I climbed out of bronze with no problems you post ANOTHER video of a "smurf" who is playing like crap and blaming his team.

I really don't understand what point you are trying to make. In both those videos those players played like trash and deserved to lose. Sure looks like they belong in bronze to me.

spombjop1 votes

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I'm confused. You posted video of a "smurf" who is playing like crap and blaming his team. And it response to me saying that I climbed out of bronze with no problems you post ANOTHER video of a "smurf" who is playing like crap and blaming his team.

I really don't understand what point you are trying to make. In both those videos those players played like trash and deserved to lose. Sure looks like they belong in bronze to me.

But explain me your logic how is this guy bad? U can't carry trash players like these. He pulled tristana with blitz and draven did NOTHING. Draven did nothing whole game, he was just farming and cho lost to vayne on top, he is feeder

Randomonium1 votes

We must be looking at different videos. Blitz landed a pull and Draven nearly killed the Trist. Blitz then repeatedly over extended, missed his hooks, died, and raged. His positioning was absolutely horrible. His skill shot accuracy was absolutely horrible. His ability to dodge skills shots was absolutely horrible. He died because he made mistakes, not because of anything the Draven did or didn't do. If he had played better he wouldn't have died. He deserved to die, he deserved to lose, and he deserves to be in bronze.

You still haven't addressed the elephant in the room which is that two seasons in a row I haven't had any trouble climbing out of bronze.

spombjop1 votes

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We must be looking at different videos. Blitz landed a pull and Draven nearly killed the Trist. Blitz then repeatedly over extended, missed his hooks, died, and raged. His positioning was absolutely horrible. His skill shot accuracy was absolutely horrible. His ability to dodge skills shots was absolutely horrible. He died because he made mistakes, not because of anything the Draven did or didn't do. If he had played better he wouldn't have died. He deserved to die, he deserved to lose, and he deserves to be in bronze.

You still haven't addressed the elephant in the room which is that two seasons in a row I haven't had any trouble climbing out of bronze.

You're playing on NA that's why u didn't have any trouble to get out of Bronze. If u played on OCE or EUW u would have BIG trouble to get out of bronze because of 90% trolls, feeders and bad players and all in your team.

Randomonium2 votes

That doesn't even make sense. If you never troll then only 4 out of 5 people on your team are potential trolls/feeders while on the other team 5 out of 5 people are potential trolls/feeders. Just by pure statistics over hundreds of game you will get more trolls/feeders on the enemy team than your team.

Also, you've never played on the NA server so how would you know how the number of trolls/feeders compare.

The only common factor in all your defeats is you. Once you stop blaming other people its easy to climb.

spombjop1 votes

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That doesn't even make sense. If you never troll then only 4 out of 5 people on your team are potential trolls/feeders while on the other team 5 out of 5 people are potential trolls/feeders. Just by pure statistics over hundreds of game you will get more trolls/feeders on the enemy team than your team.

Also, you've never played on the NA server so how would you know how the number of trolls/feeders compare.

The only common factor in all your defeats is you. Once you stop blaming other people its easy to climb.

but in BRONZE is diferent. only reason for defeats in bronze is YOUR team. because enemies are bad and ofc that u will do well but if u lose it's not YOU fault, it's your teams fault.

Randomonium2 votes

That makes no sense. If the enemy team is bad then you should be able to stomp them and carry the game. Its not like your team is bronze players and the enemy team is plat players. You're all bronze players. If you can't carry a bronze game then you don't deserve to be higher than bronze.

There are tons of people who do unranked to diamond series (on all servers) and none of them have problems carrying. I guarantee you that you could hire an elo booster and they would have you out of bronze within a day (though I don't recommend that because you can get banned for it.) If elo boosters can get you out of bronze in a day then why can't you do it?

Best Valor NA1 votes

My Autistic friend just made it out of bronze, so can you. (Not even kidding.)

spombjop1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAm2eAmlsYs

Cho is the main reason for this defeat, not blitz.

Strawberrycocoa1 votes

I think I vastly increased my enjoyment of the game once I decided to abandon Ranked and it's false sense of accomplishment and just stick to Normals where I can play who I want and not be given too much shit for it.

Plus at Bronze level half the queue is trolls just trying to piss people off. It's not worth it when Normals are much MUCH better about encouraging friendly healthy atmosphere of gameplay.

Anomander1 votes

I am bad......like really really bad .........I still got out of bronze.

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