Still bitter about the Veigar rework...

Hakavay·5/21/2015, 8:44:01 PM·7 votes·1,082 views

As a previous Veigar main, I was just thinking about how it's been ages since I last bothered playing as him and that it has been even longer since I've seen a Veigar in game. I remember people arguing that he was actually better post rework because he can farm more safely & efficient but from what I can tell that's rubbish.

Anyone else still feeling the sting from the Veigar rework? I miss everything about playing him, he great lines, that laugh, his play but it is so frustrating pretending his stun is in any way reliable.

Veigar is dead. Long live Veigar. -

22 Comments

Sooko5/21/2015, 10:11:48 PM5 votes

I just wish he would be as strong as he was before "compensation", but to say that he is any better than he was before is just lying.

I don't find him fun to play anymore, I don't find him reliable, and I can't think of any comp where he fits better than other bursty TF oriented mages.

True, he is no longer the piece of trash 38% win-rate 0.00001% pick-rate patch 5.4 made him, but the popularity loss definitely shows how successful his rework really was, and it seems the door is officially closed for more buffs for a long time.

I don't even want him to be next to Zed and Katarina above 50% ban rate and picked in 1/3 games. All I wanted was for him to still be a niche pick: underrated but very powerful. Now he is a nearly instant lost lane with a horrible pick rate, whose popularity is below Urgot's and whose ban rate is nearly 0%.

AhhShucks5/21/2015, 9:20:57 PM3 votes

I've been playing him a lot lately. He seems pretty decent. He has some matchups that used to be skill matchups that are now just bad, like Yasuo or Zed. For the most part though I haven't been having any problems with him, and once you get to midgame with reasonable farm blowing people up with 2 spells is a ton of fun.

Pandemic Punch5/21/2015, 8:44:46 PM2 votes

I am still bitter about the Soraka rework

khorney5/21/2015, 8:45:31 PM2 votes

your mad u cant insta stun anyone anymore , now you know how i feel about zileans stupid worthless rework

Zarxis5/22/2015, 6:49:55 AM2 votes

I can tolerate the E delay by itself, but I despise the fact that Veigar's W is still reliant on it. Dark Matter should be changed so that it can be used effectively by itself (without CC— ex: larger AOE, shorter delay, etc.), or it should be reworked entirely.

Marthian5/21/2015, 9:54:24 PM1 votes

Nope. And his stun needed that nerf, it was extremely reliable.

corylulu5/21/2015, 8:50:05 PM1 votes

He was a low skill cap, low counterplay, extremely high damage mage that needed a rework. Otherwise, he would never see a buff again and every time he started looking strong, he would get nerfed.

I do feel the Veigar rework has a minor problem and it is his Event Horizon visual delay. I feel the delay should remain the same between casting and it taking effect, but I feel the visual for the opponent should be reduced slightly. Much like Cho Gath's Rupture, where there is a delay between the cast and the visual appearing.

This would require Veigar to still be more calculated about how he wanted to use Event Horizon, but makes it a bit less easy to escape with mobile champions.

Davy Crockett5/22/2015, 6:30:54 AM1 votes

In terms of Veigar being trash, If I see Chogath , Azir Yasuo , Nidalee , TwistedFate or Zed in the mid lane, I will definitely pick him and they will loose. Supposedly Yasuo is one of Veigar's biggest counters, wrong, Zed will destroy Veigar, wrong. You get where I'm going.