Nope new map nope.

Maybe, just maybe, the Jungle is no longer designed to be controlled by one player. Maybe, just maybe, people will realize they can no longer live in lane and expect the win the game there. Perhaps lanes need to ward the area of the jungle they are able to defend and.....defend it. Or...assist the jungler throughout the game rather than "ok you got a good leash so now you can dominate our jungle for the next 33 minutes.".

The jungle belongs to your TEAM, and your team needs to invest in it.

I agree the stacking dragon buff is ridiculous, but almost in a good way. The objective side of it definitely forces teams to work together, because if you ignore drag then the other team is going to get that good advantage. Since this update my games have had so many epic dragon battles. Although, I do think getting the 5 stack may be a little overpowered and will probably be dialed back a little. In the one game my team has been able to secure all 5 drags, we already controlled the game since the start of the game, so I can't accurately say it was all because of the drag stacks.

I think the scuttle crab is a good addition that doesn't need to be changed much. Mid-late game it takes a matter of seconds to grab. Early game though when the enemy adc/supp recall you and your partner bot and easily grab it. If jg hasn't grabbed it already that is.

i have killed many a team with a five stack dragon buff. I think the new map is so much better. the adc or mid can also take a scuttle crab. They are tanky but easy to kill

So the way you guys have made the new map, it almost solely depends on the jungler. f your jungle r is not an aggressive jungler or one that doesnt like to contest objectives or try to get them then you lose the game.

Was even more true on the old map.

the stacking dragon buff is RIDICULOUS. That is a horrible idea.

It's not so much the stacking, but the order in which they gave the buffs that makes it a super snowbally objective.

It makes the enemy almost unkillable after 5 stacks.

I don't care. When was the last time you won a game after losing 5 dragons?

You put way too much pressure on ONE player. Even the vision/speed boost in the river relies mostly on a jungler getting it. As if junglers didn't have it hard enough and as if good ones weren't hard enough to find. nope nope.

Contesting dragon is more about your team than your jungler.

I won games with 10k difference in S4... With good synch with team and a little bit of luck of course!