Reminder that you can itemize against true damage

Mecha MaIphite·Sep 22, 2015·3 votes·1,490 views

Regular true damage. %HP is trickier to deal with.

This is more for clarity than anything else, because I keep seeing people say that you can't itemize against true damage. Flat true damage is completely counterable by building HP, in the sense that %hp damage (physical or magical) is countered by building resistances. %HP true damage is much rarer, and will hopefully stay rare.

EDIT: Reminder that this thread is about itemizing against flat true damage.

14 Comments

CrettSep 22, 20152 votes

I don't personally complain about flat true damage; Cho'gath is fine to me, so is Darius and Kog'maw, Vel'koz is great And I just feel sorry for Zyra

But %true damage should only exist in very limited cases in my opinion

KãtãrinãSep 22, 20151 votes

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I don't personally complain about flat true damage; Cho'gath is fine to me, so is Darius and Kog'maw, Vel'koz is great And I just feel sorry for Zyra

But %true damage should only exist in very limited cases in my opinion

well currently i think its only on fiora, garen and vayne

Order of TalonSep 22, 20151 votes

What about Vayne?

KãtãrinãSep 22, 20151 votes

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What about Vayne?

My bad forgot she did %Max hp. i added that Ty.

insaiyanbaccaSep 22, 20151 votes

its only on garen fiora and vayne

CrettSep 22, 20151 votes

I loathe Fiora and Vayne Garen's fine imo, if you're the villain you gotta respect the Garen

insaiyanbaccaSep 22, 20152 votes

yeah on garen its fine but the others just feel unneeded or unbalanced

Baron SamediSep 22, 20151 votes

Honestly, if %true damage exists, it should be minimal as in not deal as much damage as Fiora is dishing out right now. I feel vayne's true damage is strong as well(because of the %) but fiora's when well placed is off the charts.

RalanrSep 22, 20151 votes

What about when it isn't well placed?

Baron SamediSep 22, 20151 votes

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What about when it isn't well placed?

Honestly, i feel its strong even when not well placed as long as she can strike 1 vital point.

RalanrSep 22, 20151 votes

I think the best way to deal with this is to either not make the true damage bonus damage instead of %health based, or make the %health based damage physical or magical.

RalanrSep 22, 20151 votes

I believe the only champions that have %health based true damage are: Fiora , Garen , Vayne .

If it's beyond those 3, then please tell me. Otherwise, out of over a hundred champions only 3 have %health based true damage.

These are champions that can be dealt with.

alfavhunterSep 22, 20151 votes

You can itemize %hp true damage as well, it's just not very effective

Shields do not count toward max hp% but still block damage

So the new bruiser item, the locket, and abilities that provide shields can help vs it, but it's still a BS mechanic and won't be balanced unless shielding options are improved and made stronger

Mecha MaIphiteSep 22, 20151 votes

It's not completely uncounterable, but it kind of also depends on what champ you play. Malphite will have a much easer time "itemizing" against a Vayne than a Gragas, for example.

Regular true damage can be itemized against by every tank.