Will Ziggs support become a thing?

zlumpy·7/28/2016, 6:58:32 AM·2 votes·3,053 views

Just thinking with the tower first blood mechanic coming in will Ziggs see play in a hyper aggresive lane scenario?

All he has to do is get a tower low and Boom instant kill free gold advantage. Sure you lose stun but his Aoe slow, knockback, and constant poke potential paired with fast wave pushing and potentially good tower siege could make for an interesting demolition team comp/play focus.

Hell he could just stay mid and roam hard for a quick tower if someone pushes it hard enough. Will we also be seeing a lot more banner of command/Zzrot rushes for 1st item?

16 Comments

Sightless667/28/2016, 8:53:01 PM2 votes

All he has to do is get a tower low

You say that as if it's easy. Ziggs is not a great laner. He's decent, but his main claim to fame is huge safety through easy farming, which isn't going to be amazingly useful when he's supporting someone else's lane.

Other mage supports bring better early damage, easier-to-hit skillshots, and much stronger CC. They're much better suited to actually winning a lane than Ziggs is, and their superior CC means they'll be much stronger if they fall behind.

Unstoppable Monk7/28/2016, 7:00:18 AM2 votes

You need too much skill to pull off a good Ziggs compared to other support strategies that can result in a tower first blood.

A competent Ziggs player could pull it off, but anyone else is going to fail.

Mistress Shyvana7/28/2016, 7:20:38 AM1 votes

i used to ziggs support, very fun.VERY aggressive lane. ideally you wanna freeze lane near your turret and toss Q's over the minion wave at them. or shove them to tower and keep them far back.

Delphinium7/28/2016, 10:47:10 AM1 votes

All of zigg's ability is skillshots. Not only it's not a guarantee hit, his high mana cost, no cc, high cd, squishy, no mobility, no defence, and need items to work made him a bad support. He brings no benefits to the adc as a support early game. Don't think you should play a champ just for to use his w on a turret in 15 min of the game.

Aptest7/28/2016, 7:47:33 PM1 votes

I do not think ziggs support is viable.

ziggs replacing the ADC and laning with a support, however, is viable (as a 5th pick VS full squish line ups)

TheDevice7/28/2016, 8:44:27 PM1 votes

I think Ziggs would make a great support.

He has plenty of CC and a skilled mobility. Not easy, but possible.

Surr20plz7/29/2016, 5:51:42 AM1 votes

Just bookmark this post and when someone in LCS does it everyone who was saying it wouldn't work here will be wrong...and fat.

JafarThePanda7/29/2016, 6:01:30 AM1 votes

Pros and cons at face value of ziggs support:

Pros: Harassment via Q, W, and E Zoning, again, by his kit Sieging capabilities can become useful when you're winning because of satchel execute Good for a kill lane, can use E to ward off the river or any flank for a few seconds, while Q and W can focus laners

Cons: Mediocre team fight even ahead, unless you can coordinate no healing for either person in lane very little escape from mobile adcs/supports with hooks other than W which a bad ziggs can suicide over if placed wrong very immobile and squishy otherwise Not useful while behind Very little to no hard CC Ult is really his only means of wrecking multiple targets, and even then, you need them to stay in the circle because it has a ridiculously long drop time but a wide diameter

Assessment at face value - Run kill lanes with Annie Lux Volibear Velkoz who aren't actual supports over Ziggs who does nothing better than these minus his satchel execute

Dynikus7/28/2016, 7:00:56 AM1 votes

while tower first blood is good, I don't see it being a good idea to take a champion just to get a small early game gold lead when you'll likely ruin your late game by not having a real support.