possible solution for lack of supports in solo q

tiklemepink··1 votes·506 views

Hey, first time starting a discussion. I was just thinking that maybe riot could add some incentive for people to queue as supports in solo q. Like an ip boost. doesn't have to be limited to supports, any role that's desperately needed at the moment. or maybe a group can create like a pot of their own ip. and give it as a gift when the support shows up. lets get some brainstorming going and maybe riot might see this and think it a good idea! sorry if i'm breaking any board post codes of conduct.

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MarkedOfKane1 votes

The reason there is a lack of supports is because a lot of people don't want to be the team's bitch.

Not a lot of supports actually get compliments for the work they do. I think supports just need more interesting items. Twin Shadows, Banner and other things would be pretty cool. Supports are almost always the last people to get their full builds too and usually they are just building utility or tank. Its kind of bland.

Maybe an item that can put a shield around a tower or something.

ZileanUltJesusOP2 votes

They do have that item its called playing janna

MarkedOfKane1 votes

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They do have that item its called playing janna

Yeah, but I mean a shield that stays until destroyed. Maybe a thorn shield.. To prevent backdoors.

Ravenhale1 votes

More items could be interesting. I think they have the alternate gold items pretty good, but other items don't have decent counterparts. Right now it can be pretty tough to justify not getting Ardent Censor for a person that heals/shields. Perhaps a different one that buffs Resistances or Attack Damage instead of Attack Speed. Different options allow different strategies.

Also there is no real reason to upgrade the Sight Stone to a Ruby. A different upgrade like say, combine Sight Stone with Warden's Mail to make a Vest of Clarity (2100gp perhaps?) that grants 200HP, 60Armor, 15% reduced attack speed and 5 ward charges. This would give an alternative to Frozen Heart, though it doesn't have the CDR or as much Armor. The big savings here though is that it upgrades your Sight Stone for part of another item you were probably going to build if you had the cash.

Another item that could use an alternative is Mikael's Crucible. As Leona, I have never had an issue with her mana well, so picking up Chalice to build the Crucible seems an utter waste. I end up going for Aegis which builds to Locket or Banner instead. And the promote from Banner while interesting does not outweigh the benefits of the shield Locket provides in team fights.

But getting back to topic, Crucible has an active that removes all debuffs on a target that honestly is going to die in the next second anyways (the 150+10% heal doesn't seem to spare anyone). I was thinking an item that swaps positions and removes debuffs would be vastly superior for a Tank support that arrived a little late to a fight or somehow got kited around (or the squishies got ambushed from behind due to improper warding, etc.)

I'd put it up there with Banner and Locket in price, since it would be so much better than Crucible. The active would be a position swap that removes your allies debuffs but does not provide the healing Crucible does. But first, I think we need to add an Advanced Item to its build that imitates Aegis.

Ancient Hauberk - 1700gp 200 Health / 20 Armor Unique Passive – HARDENED: Nearby allied champions gain +20 Armor and +50% health regen per 5 seconds. (1100 range)

Build is Identical to Aegis though Null Mantle is replaced with Cloth Armor.

Adding Bami's Cinder instead of Kindlegem

Martyr's Gate - 3000gp 550 Health / 25 Armor Unique Passive – HARDENED: Nearby allied champions gain +20 Armor and +50% health regen per 5 seconds. (1100 range) ; Unique Passive – IMMOLATE: Deals 5 (+1 per champion level) magic damage per second to nearby enemies. Deals 50% bonus damage to minions and monsters. Unique Active – Removes all stuns, roots, taunts, fears, silences and slows on an allied champion and swaps their position with yours (180 second cooldown).

Anyways, just some ideas that probably would break the game in coding.

Mew Goes AD1 votes

The support is the one role in the game that was not originally intended by Riot (at least, not in its current form). At the very beginning, no one even considered the idea that, in a duo lane, one person should take all the CS and another should do nothing but harass/threaten the opponents. This came about organically and was only solidified by Riot after they couldn't find a way to get rid of it.

The support gets no farm and no kills. The support can't kill anything alone. The support's main job is to keep opposing champions from killing your own team's champions that actually get to have fun killing people. You live vicariously through your teammates.

No one wants to play this. Half the fun of LoL is K/D/A.

DJ Di02 votes

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The support is the one role in the game that was not originally intended by Riot (at least, not in its current form). At the very beginning, no one even considered the idea that, in a duo lane, one person should take all the CS and another should do nothing but harass/threaten the opponents. This came about organically and was only solidified by Riot after they couldn't find a way to get rid of it.

The support gets no farm and no kills. The support can't kill anything alone. The support's main job is to keep opposing champions from killing your own team's champions that actually get to have fun killing people. You live vicariously through your teammates.

No one wants to play this. Half the fun of LoL is K/D/A.

I like healing, so I enjoy playing Janna and Soraka; it gives me joy knowing people are raging at me for not letting them kill my damage-dealing teammates.... :)

Ravenhale1 votes

Yea, half the fun is K/D/A. So If I go 0/0/28, I say that is pretty darn fun.

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