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Why was Revive removed ;-;

Donkay20··27 votes·18,640 views

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61 Comments

Jamnon19 votes

But now I can't pick zombie Karthus Karthus {{summoner:10}} summoner 12

Keevalroy13 votes

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But now I can't pick zombie Karthus Karthus {{summoner:10}} summoner 12

I'm waiting for Phantoml0rd to throw a holy-shit-fit. Riot in the past has quickly changed their minds on things when high elo players/streamers are angry about something. Maybe he can help save Revive again like he did the first time Riot tried to remove it.

Jamnon5 votes

Wait he's the one who spoke out against it being removed? I dont see them removing {{summoner:2}} and thats never used so...

Keevalroy10 votes

Exactly, they have no reason whatsoever to take away Revive, and can't even attempt to explain their reasoning in the patch notes, so why the hell is it being removed?

OMEGADUDEE1 votes

i use it to see where they are

Keevalroy12 votes

Because 'no one picked it' when clairvoyance and clarity are still in the game, and it's unhealthy while Zed, Lee, and Kalista are allowed to exist on the roster as is. If you're expecting an answer, they can't give one because given those reasons, their logic wouldn't make much sense.

Donkay203 votes

I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt with this one.

Surely they must have had a reason to remove it, nobody was picking it and it wasn't doing anything game-breaking in the current meta, so I cannot see why it had to be removed. {{summoner:10}}

EDIT: unclear

YOU BEEN WARNED7 votes

I swear I hate Riot so much right now.

FoggyPaws2 votes

{quoted}

Because 'no one picked it' when clairvoyance and clarity are still in the game, and it's unhealthy while Zed, Lee, and Kalista are allowed to exist on the roster as is. If you're expecting an answer, they can't give one because given those reasons, their logic wouldn't make much sense.

I take Clarity, and I get great use out of it.

Amphyby1 votes

we took revive and were getting great use of it 2, but they removed it!

Marinaras Trench1 votes

Excuse me Katarina summoner 13 is life

KwangoTango9 votes

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Keevalroy7 votes

RIP Suicide Karthus

OMEGADUDEE1 votes

make that Rammus andMasterYi

Yfrappefort6 votes

My problem with this is the complete lack of context. Like, aren't they at least gonna explain why they thought it should be removed now?

I mean, clairvoyance and clarity are used about as much (read almost never here) and they are still in the game.

Keevalroy1 votes

I agree, but they can't provide their reasoning because we can dispute every point they could make, so my guess is that they would rather not even try. And admitting that would cause the same level of "WTF" reaction if not more than what the silence has promoted.

Lord Dusteon4 votes

Wasn't Revive only used on zombie Karthus and trolls though?

Jamnon3 votes

Occasionally map-presence characters like Shen bc his kit scales with health, or some rare top laners (again mostly Shen).

Keevalroy4 votes

@Meddler @Riot @Ghostcrawler @Sotere @Morello @Anyone...

Kürama1 votes

:(

1st HanarSpectre2 votes

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@Meddler @Riot @Ghostcrawler @Sotere

How is it surprising. Just like surge, nobody fucking used revive, that's why it's getting removed, that's why executioner calling got removed. Nobody gave a fuck about that spell before, the only reason people are "caring" now is because it was removed so they feel like whining about nothing,

Keevalroy4 votes

It may come as a surprise to you, but it's occasionally used. Want to know why it's not commonly seen? Why do you think? People see it as a troll spell and don't trust it. I use it when I'm with friends and want to have a fun time. Are we whining just for the sake of whining or are some of us impacted by this?

Personally, I always play Karthus with Revive/TP. I don't typically play him a lot because the meta is atrocious for him - what kind of masochists would play Karthus for an extended period of time with picks like what we have now, and have had for the last season and a half??

If you want to generalize and say no one gave a fuck before, then that's fine, but don't act like you have the right to label people as QQ'ers just because we're reacting to the removal.

Mannequin F6 votes

Executioner's Calling was an absolutely fabulous item. Every time I would get it when playing against Mundo, Hecarim, Lee, etc. The fact is, people need to stop looking at lcs players and trying to model themselves exactly after them. Like it's okay to pick up sometips and learn, but be fucking original. You go out of meta in champion select and get called a noob and a troll and then when you do successfully, no one fucking acknowledges you. An lcs player goes out of meta in select and everyone raises an eyebrow, then when they do successfully, they get praised and it's 'new meta'. I'm really getting sick and tired of the stigma. I've played Katarina since S2 and I can say that I can play her top and mid quite well. I've won against most Jax and Xin Zhao picks and that's a pretty good feat if I do say so myself. I mained adc in S4 but it got too tiring to play when they removed executioner's which further confirmed "status builds" on adcs like you're only supposed to build one way. Nobody fucking used Revive? Not sure if you took a survey of every single League player and was able to draw that conclusion. Just because it was an unpopular spell, doesn't mean that should be the justification of a removal. And I care because I don't want them to add more items and make the game more diverse, just to shrink it again so we can all feel like fucking pro players. Step your pussy game up, honey.Caitlyn

Frayace3 votes

rip fun custom games ;_;

COWmanLord3 votes

I would guess there are 2 main reasons

  1. It was pretty much never picked.

  2. In the rare cases where someone did pick it, half the time they were just using it intentionally feed harder, not because they thought it was good.

Caezium3 votes

Tbh I expected Clairvoyance or Clarity to get removed first.

(not that I want any summoner spells to be removed, just they are more of a noob trap than revive)

Karlyr6 votes

All summoners spells should stay there regardless. It's a thing to want the game balanced higher level. It's another to remove the fun of custom games / half troll builds

MS Hecarim Zombie Karthus EverywhereShen and Pantheon and RekSai Incoming Chiming Bard

MS Hecarim got nerfed soon after his release, but is still played for fun in normals. Zombie Karthus is viable if you want to carry some games and still laugh at your death counter.

Revive is still a thing if you want to survive a late game base after an ace. Removing a summoner spell is just plain out removing diversity. It's not because most players consider it a troll summoner spell that it is.

Caezium2 votes

Diversity seems to be a thing they are really struggling with this season as a whole...

Keevalroy1 votes

I'd say that it's not like they aren't trying, but they're not really doing anything worth mentioning to bring diversity to League. Something I, as well as others in the community have noticed is that they're removing the diversity we're begging them to keep, and begging them to communicate on.

Their rational behind their choices are contradicting what they claim they want to do with the game, and it highlights their favoritism and vision for how THEY want the game to look within poor balance decisions.

We want explanations from the actual balance team, not representatives trying put out the fire they started, and are throwing oil barrels onto.

Yordle Repellant2 votes

Honestly, I play Clarity quite often on AP supports or midlaners with favorable matchups. summoner 13 allows you to push/harass like crazy in midlane so you can gank other lanes without missing cs. Harass to the point that enemy has to recall, then roam. Ziggs Lux Velkoz are examples of champs I would use summoner 13 on.

As AP support, (mainly pre-patch Zilean , but also Morgana or Zyra) you can really overwhelm early levels. Again: force to recall, deny them farm, farm more yourself and help other lanes.

later game the teamfights can go your way when everyone suddenly gets 40% mana.

UncensoredAngel3 votes

They remove Revive they remove me ever playing Karthus again, revive aloud him to spam his q in passive than come back and ult instead of wasting his passive channeling his ult

DrCyanide2 votes

Because U.R.F is coming back soon(tm) and they didn't want another spell to have the same popularity as Flash unless they mandate it (a la Poro King).

Keevalroy12 votes

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Because U.R.F is coming back soon(tm) and they didn't want another spell to have the same popularity as Flash unless they mandate it (a la Poro King).

Then a better option would be to disable it on that mode but keep it in the others.

Jamnon5 votes

They DID disable it. URF is not coming back bc the existence of Azir and Kalista . Sorry to say it.

The Soulforged3 votes

They announced it was coming back.

Raja Chachki1 votes

source please. this is exciting if it's true :)

Kinoko30021 votes

So? They can ban them like they did to Teemo and other champs like Kassadin .

Eetheart1 votes

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They DID disable it. URF is not coming back bc the existence of Azir and Kalista . Sorry to say it.

You're obviously wrong. URF came back.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Cause 90% of league players doesn't pick it, except Karthus mains.

libraryseraph 1 votes

i picked it when i started playing, like once. Then i realized it didn't cancel out the death like item 3026 and the cd was so long I was basically admitting "yeah i plan to die a lot" and stopped

BADxW0LF1 votes

Because, honestly, who even used it??? And if it was used, how often was it used? It was a waste of space in the game that could be used for another Sum

Aragorn13893 votes

Or they could leave it and just add more anyways. I know quite a few people who used it a lot and this really pissed them off. I would rather have had them keep it as an option instead of just taking it out. They didn't even replace it or anything, they just got rid of it.

Sukishoo1 votes

It's sad in some ways, not so in others. Doesn't really affect me personally as I never really used it outside of Dominion. But then the time came along and they placed the Soul Anchor Trinket in there which basically replaced Revive for that map.

They could have probably done some work to the spell itself in order to keep it in the game but other then that, there really was just a very small niche of people that used it, so that'd probably why they decided to remove it.

NFS1 votes

I only just now noticed it was gone, when i started thinking "can I combo Ecko's ult with revive" -- I went to test it and noticed it wasn't on the list.

FinaIBoss1 votes

I thought the same, and now I am starting to think that might actually have been the reason they removed it

OMEGADUDEE1 votes

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BurningRice1 votes

Because 99% of the time it was taken to feed and troll with. If you saw someone with revive you automatically assumed they were going to internationaly feed.

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