is this a good enough champ pool to get out of bronze?
Mid Lane:Talon,Annie,Teemo Top Lane:Teemo,Dr. Mundo,Tryndamere Support:Blitzcrank,Morgana Jungler:Jax,Xin Zhao ADC: I don't play ADC but I'm probably gonna buy MF when i get some IP
Mid Lane:Talon,Annie,Teemo Top Lane:Teemo,Dr. Mundo,Tryndamere Support:Blitzcrank,Morgana Jungler:Jax,Xin Zhao ADC: I don't play ADC but I'm probably gonna buy MF when i get some IP
You only need 2 positions.
I know but I can play all of those positions.
So you want to limit your champion pool to increase your chances of climbing, but not your roles..?
Ok.. new improved version Mid:Talon,Teemo,Annie Support:Blitzcrank,Morgana,Soraka
Thats fine, but you are going to get support pretty much every game.
I don't mind that
Annie can support as well.
And morg can mid (it's acutally really good vs the current ad meta they can't pop your e even with only 1 rank
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You only need 2 positions.
he said bronze
Doesn't matter...?
Tbh you can probably get out of bronze with just one champion that you can play at a high level, so long as it's not a common pick/ban. Dynamic queues role selection+pick intent makes being a one trick pony somewhat more viable than previous seasons.
So..should I just use Talon? I play him really well. I'm scared of getting counterpicked.
Well, if you're quite a bit better at talon than your other champs, it wouldn't be out of the question to only pick talon and carry yourself out of bronze.
Bronze being bronze, counter picks are somewhat less important than raw skill with the champion, so if you're playing talon at a silver+ level, then you'll probably still be able to beat <insert talon counter pick here> being played at a bronze level, despite it being a counter pick. (Not to mention people don't necessarily even know what the counter matchups are unless they happen to play the champ.)
Even if you do lose some of the counter match ups, the key thing is just to be winning >50% of your matches and you'll climb upwards slowly but surely.
That said, mid is a rather contested role, so having a high level champ in whatever other role you're inclined to queue for would probably be wise.
If you happen to play a support champ at a high level, then you probably could play exclusively that champ just since dynamic queue would end up giving you support 90%+ of the time anyway, but for other roles you'd probably want someone you cna play at a high level on your other role as well. (That said, theres plenty of champs that can be played both mid or top, so mastering one of those is another way to be a one trick pony and climb far.)
Don't get me wrong, having a diverse champion pool is all well and good, but at lower elos in particular people don't necessarily play any of the champs well enough to really make the most of the diversity (i.e. they play a lot of champs poorly, instead of one or two really well).
Support champ that can carry game at low elo
AP build
you have a second mid, I personally really like morg. A 5 man stun is a game changer
I'v won quite a few games with tanky/ad
support as well, Counters tanky engage like thresh/blitz pretty hard but i typically only do this if we got a ap mid. Since currently everyone likes zed/talon/yas for mid
Panth and Garen supports are stupidly effective in bronze unless you've got an enemy support who took disengage and knows what they're doing.
90% of the time they can stomp.
You can always ban/ask for a ban on your hardest match-up. Also if they counter-pick and aren't experienced on that champ you will probably win anyway. Remember your goal it is to master a champ and the best way to master a champ is to play it a lot in all its match-ups. If you really want you can have a backup so you don't have to pick into a counter.
You cant Counter a Player
easiest way to get out of bronze is to play only 1-2 champs so you actually get good at them.
That's what I've been thinking to myself and alot of people have been saying that to me too but like I said i'm scared of getting counterpicked
unless the other person is really good with that counter pick you're fine.
This is highly unlikely to happen every game
Don't play Teemo mid. He's better suited for top lane. Morgana can function mid lane. Just max W first and Q second. My opinion may be biased but Ezreal is the best ADC. Buy him before buying Miss Fortune. If you're not good at ADC get Sivir or Ashe. Because they are utility ADCs so even if you feed you still are useful to your team. Jinx is another easy ADC to play as.
Teemo isn't a reliable mid laner since burst mages can crush him. (Which is most of the mid laners you'll ever face)
You did good picks on supports, and I might move tryndamere to jungle as well if you want, he also works with rageblade, Botrk and devourer.
As for adc, if you want a high damage and safe champion, Caitlyn is your woman. Sometimes I play her in blind pick when my team trolls and doesn't give me a support (Happened to me twice). If that happens, give her the assasin mastery and she can nearly 1v2 the enemy bot lane easy.
Play your best champion, learn correct build for the match up. learn to last hit, learn when to roam and when not to, learn how to not get butt raped by minion aggro early game, learn to call shots, learn to play against counters
These are how you climb ELO at all ranks, you learn this more and more while also increasing your mechanics.
Mid Lane:Talon,Annie,Teemo Top Lane:Teemo,Dr. Mundo,Tryndamere Support:Blitzcrank,Morgana Jungler:Jax,Xin Zhao ADC: I don't play ADC but I'm probably gonna buy MF when i get some IP
might want to just go xin support for the most part :P
Heres how I got out of bronze season 4: Spam the shit out of 1-3 champions. For me, it was VI, Kha'zix, and Pantheon. Pick your best lane and master the champion you like to play most.
In bronze I think coutner picks are mostly irrelevant. Bronze players dont typically know how to capitalize on their innate advantages and even if they do, they dont do it well and its pretty easy to out play them.
Honestly the quickest way to get out of bronze is just to main a single champ. If you can play the champ at a half decent level you will beat your opponent 99% of the time even if they counter pick you because in league counter picks are all theoretical (basically they should counter IF played correctly). At a bronze level they wont be played correctly and you can abuse that to pick up easy wins
Mid Lane:Talon,Annie,Teemo Top Lane:Teemo,Dr. Mundo,Tryndamere Support:Blitzcrank,Morgana Jungler:Jax,Xin Zhao ADC: I don't play ADC but I'm probably gonna buy MF when i get some IP
This is far too much. Pick two roles and get three champs per role. You can climb that way with enough mental discipline (read: no fun).
Don't ADC - MF isn't great right now. Granted there aren't rules in Bronze but if you want to focus on statistics, she's too immobile to be top tier.
Support - Yes to Morg, no to Blitz. Support has two roles, mage and tank. So have a 4 champ rotation here - Morg, Karma, Braum, Nautilus
Jungler - those look good. Have a tank in the rotation. Maybe gragas? I personally use Maokai but I wouldn't recommend him.
Top looks good. Maybe a mage for good measure in which case I'd suggest Swain.
Again, focus two roles max. I'd skip mid since it's the most in demand. Maybe Top/Jungle?
way to big.
best way to climb out is to have a small champ pool
Mid Lane:Annie,Teemo Top Lane:Teemo,Dr. Mundo
this is a better pool
Recomed learing to play one champ rely well so that then you can focus on learning when to roam how to control minion waves and game knowledge in general. Got to diamond by only playing Aatrox top. So you can to it to,
Teach me
Main one champ, also Morgana and Blitz are pretty much the same in a way. so find more supports.
But learn one champreally well and main them.
Stop. Play 2 roles. Play 2 champs per role.
Top-Trundle is still fairly strong, don't know much about that area Jg-Hec oramumu. both super strong mid-Ahri and lux. so easy adc-lucian or cait support-leona. too much cc
Trynd alone will do it if you know how to split push. Jax as well, don't forget he's a top champ.