Buffing lethality ADC was the best thing You've done Riot!

Ibn La Ahad·1/31/2017, 7:07:57 PM·53 votes·5,816 views

Now you don't have to play assassins, specially talon since you have a MF pressing Q and chunking 3/4 of your HP bar. Good job.

Edit: So I just read the blog Reav3 made (http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/01/dev-state-of-champion-update-january-2017/) , and since we're talking about Lethality and mostly my main "Talon", I'd say I disagree about what Reav3 said.

@Reav3 or any other Rioter, if you're reading this then I have to disagree about the items line ---> (( While we feel Talon’s kit is in a pretty good spot, we also think he was a tad bit weak at launch. We put some small buffs in for Talon himself, but also suspect his current power level is impacted by some of his must-buy items being a little on the weak side. ))

You see if those items were in weak spot Rengo and Kha , jayce too wouldn't be dealing that much damage since they increase their overall AD damage.

Talon's problem mainly lies in his "Spells SCALING", his scaling on his Q and R both are low. and other QoL buffs would totally put him in a better spot like for example:

  1. Talon being able to E --> Q mid air or W or any other spell.
  2. Talon could R then E and still be invisible.

the W double nerf "delay, and first W lost it's slow" hit him hard, yes you gave it a longer range but lost some width too. If you could let it scale so the delay is lower lategame for faster assassination that would be a wise choice "since adcs will go 5 items and it would be pointless and inefficient as an assassin to wait to land that W with it's current delay".

98 Comments

MyFootUrFace1/31/2017, 7:11:50 PM26 votes

Technically, they buffed every other champ that benefits from AD scaling and Lethality, which means talon is still in the same spot vs any other AD bruiser/assassin/adc, and the rest got generally buffed vs everyone else.

They said they'll slightly buff zed, but yea who cares about Talon, you know?

TheOnlyJoe1/31/2017, 8:24:27 PM19 votes

"ADCs in 2017 LOL"

1 lethality buff later and the QQ about ADCs starts?

Boards make up your mind please, i don't care which side you choose aslong as you actually decide to stick to it

Supreme Senpai691/31/2017, 8:48:54 PM11 votes

Don't stand behind a minion that's near-death when MF is in AA range of that minion and has her Q up lol. That will deal at least 25-50% of your HP regardless of any lethality. Like really lethality mostly just benefits her ult, her Q hits like a truck if she gets the passive off. Just like how you wouldn't stand in AA range of Jhin when he has his 4th shot up, or Annie when her stun is up. Don't chase Singed. Don't take an enemy Bard's magical journey. Stand behind your minions against a Blitzcrank. etc.

Why pick Talon when you can pick MF? Mostly because they're two entirely different champions and roles that can't even possibly be compared? MF can very conditionally do more burst damage with her Q and Talon can hop over walls and turn invisible.

That's like saying "Why should I pick Janna when Zac can avoid death?" It's not even sayin anything.

They changed armor pen to lethality so assassins could benefit from it more than ADCs. Buffing lethality is a buff to ADCs but it's a bigger buff to assassins than it is to ADCs. And even if it wasn't, two completely different roles

GeoPlaysTFT1/31/2017, 7:17:23 PM6 votes

wait until you meet a full lethality MonkeyKing who wins lane gets level 11 and proceeds to literally insta-gib your entire team with one ult.

N3mO061/31/2017, 10:53:24 PM6 votes

the real problem with Talon, isn't his scaling on r or q ( melee q is pretty insane), his problem is when he has to use his q into the closegap version, which has poor damage. So if Talon chooses the mobility of his q, he doens't have enough damage to kill the enemy.

Llehctim1/31/2017, 11:28:18 PM4 votes

The assassin update was one of the biggest failures and most pointless endeavours Riot has released in recent memory.

It practically accomplished 0 of it's goals. Still can't wrap my mind around it.

4631/31/2017, 7:12:33 PM2 votes

haha you should see me deal Zyra damage on Lulu with just auto attacks + Lethality runes.