How is it that Akali gets this insane rework and now is able to camp under a turret invisible and not targetable. Who thought that giving an assassin with low cooldowns, massive damage, and disgusting mobility wasn't enough so they added her shroud the ability to not be seen by turrets... whoever designed this really needs to reevaluate their understanding of the game cause this broken mechanic is garbage. i honestly demand a Riot explanation on why they allowed it
Pika Fox3 votesHer damage is entirely backloaded, and shes incapable of doing 100-0 burst without waiting multiple seconds. The only time she gets to not wait is when she manages to land her E. Even her ults burst is on a delay for R2. She NEEDS her shroud to work, else she will engage, and just die because she needs to wait for her damage.
Not to mention she now has massively less frontloaded damage and her mobility has been gutted.
BallBasher691 votesfrom what I seen I disagree her mobility is not gutted and sure I get that she needs to wait and work with her shroud cause she cants 100-0 "early" but my complaint isn't with any of her damage if you read my post it is with the fact that you can't see her under turret. A TURRET which is supposed to reveal invisible units so why is it that she gets the broken ability she is under turret for 10 seconds and my mid laner is sitting there trying to live... burn flash guess what she will do it again in 20 seconds... so what towers aren't safe anymore... and now that you can proc electrocute more often she is camping them under turret. My whole reason is this ability should not be given cause then is requires Akali players to actually risk a tower dive and not just get a free kill.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesOkay. Which is better?
3 long range dashes that take you right to your opponent and you are incapable of missing, as well as a short-ranged blink in any direction, all on a rather low cooldown, or 2 long ranged dashes and a mid-range dash, of which one of the long-range ones you only get if you land a specific skillshot, and you're able to miss all the other two, all of which are on a mid to long cooldown?
BallBasher691 votessure they made her more skill shot orientated, and I just don't agree with the fact that she is invisible under turrets, considering if you farm well Akali isn't an assassin that falls off compared to the other ones and can still one shot... so I still think the handicap of having a turret invisibility in the early game is broken because assassins are supposed to require a trade-off for the amount of damage they can potentially do which is why they should require a higher skill level, what is skillful about getting 10 free seconds under a turret? also, old Akali used to be an all in champ new Akali has so much more mobility I don't think you can even compare them.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesAkali falls off a bit less hard than other assassins, sure, but it's at the cost of not being as good as others early on.
The purpose of her turret "invisibility" (Keep in mind you can still see her, you just can't use point and click on her) is so she can dive. Her burst window is much more extended than that of other assassins, so while a Fizz could just dash in and nuke you in a second or less, she'll take much longer, so the shroud lets her not die to her own delays under turret.
BallBasher691 votesyeah, I can agree with your point when it is all laid out like this, I still feel it is broken but you make a good argument.
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesI do agree that she's a bit too strong in the right hands, but honestly she's more healthy than before, simply due to there not only being a lot of opportunity to outplay her, but due to the sheer amount of room she has to fuck up in, both of which were basically nonexistent in her previous iteration.
SummonVictory1 votesShe can shroud underneath the turret with no repercussions. Atleast with 3 long ranged blinks she cant dive you under a turret. Youre ignorant and a shill.
Shobek1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c9IPK3xa,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-23T17:31:40.284+0000)
Her damage is entirely backloaded, and shes incapable of doing 100-0 burst without waiting multiple seconds. The only time she gets to not wait is when she manages to land her E. Even her ults burst is on a delay for R2. She NEEDS her shroud to work, else she will engage, and just die because she needs to wait for her damage.
Not to mention she now has massively less frontloaded damage and her mobility has been gutted.
Ult in - Point blank E (nearly unmissable ) - > Q > W > E > Q > Second ult. All while being more or less untargetable under a turret. Fair and balanced for sure.
Pika Fox2 votesEven point blank E is easily dodgeable, just sidestep, its really slow coming out.
Even then, akali ult is one of the longest CDs in the entire game, if this is her kill rotation, its not up often.
SummonVictory1 votesBump.
SummonVictory1 votesNo champion should be able to 100-0.. why not give pantheon a fucking shroud then? he cant jump in an 100-0 anyone... BALANCE IS THE KEY. Akali is not balanced. She ABSOLUTELY CAN 100-0 people... So I don't see where you are making a point.
Pika Fox1 votes? Im sorry, but any champion in the game should be able to 100-0 someone. If you dump 4 abilities on someone, and theyre still alive, either youre not a damage oriented pick, or youre under powered.
Akali is an assassin, she has back loaded burst. She is the most balanced assassin in the game, given she can 100-0 someone, but only after 3-4 seconds of setup. All other assassins can do the same with no setup required.
Also, pantheon can 100-0 champions. Not a great example for you.
NotoriousX32 votesbro akali is literally useless.... if you manage to feed her then idk what ur doing
SummonVictory1 votesTurrets should reveal ALL invisibility. It's idiotic to give her the only invis that a turret can't detect. It literally makes no logical sense.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesShe has the invisibility because, unlike every other assassin in the game, she can't just dive you under turret, delete you in half a second, then get out, only taking a shot or two in the process.
SummonVictory1 votesDo you even play League of Legends?
Rickyshey1 votesI play akali, and it's not easy to get a kill with her early game, unlike some champs like talon who can just all in you and you're like wtf...my health, she takes a bit of time to damage you, all of course while you're running away to your turret, in mid lane...she has no slows except for the microstun on her R1 which gives you barely any time to pull something big off... litterally getting a kill with akali early game is a long set up, you use your Q to poke and have to get close to a champ to use your passively which sucks coz they trade back...after 2 Q's you barely have any energy left to do anything, now if you all in with akali you have to Q, proc passive hit the passive (keep in mind it's mid lane and person is running down to turret with no slow) then hit another Q proc passive and hit that if you did right electrocute will have hit but that's still not enough damage, you're also low on nergy after those Q's..the enemy is probably under turret at this point so you dive with shroud, if no shroud or some sort of invisibility under turret she dies, with the shroud she can finish off her job...and each time you hit a champ under turret even while in shroud you take a turret shot...that's all if you play your cards right...then she left with barely any health, for up in lane for an ez gank from the enemy jg...burn flash to get away....she takes skill and I think she should have some way to dive under tower, if not...then buff her damage and everyone will be freaking out why she can 100-0 early game...idk lol she's had a lot of nerfs since rework, she's the healthiest she's been rn...if I play against a good mid I'll get rekt early game, sure I won't fall off as much but they'll scale higher and bully my team mates
Just my thoughts
